Is NFS 11 be even worse than Carbon?

baumaxx1 · Post by **baumaxx1** » 28 Nov 2006, 11:15

Does anyone actually get the story behind carbon?

Ceano · Post by **Ceano** » 28 Nov 2006, 15:18

baumaxx1 wrote:Does anyone actually get the story behind carbon?

The story is totally screwed up!

DarrenR21373 · Post by **DarrenR21373** » 28 Nov 2006, 20:01

Yup, there are so many plot holes you could drive a double-decker bus through them.

In several of the cutscenes Cross is just sitting in his Corvette. Why? He's seeing what's going on, and doing nothing about it - pretty crap bounty hunter

What happened to the Supra you were driving in the first cutscenes? Did it magically turn into a BMW with the same vinyls between when you left Palmont to go to Rockport?

After you defeat Darius, who's car does he go off in?

Confusing and incoherent are the only words for it.

These and many other questions will be answered in the next episode of "Hang Larry LaPierre from the nadgers until EA can make a coherent story".

Personally, I would quite happily forgo the story altogether.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 28 Nov 2006, 20:22

at the end there when darius drives off it just leaves ea a opening for the next nfs

joablo · Post by **joablo** » 28 Nov 2006, 23:10

wich will lead us to a crap game :/ i mean common!! for not so many minuts ago i raced against wolf in his lambo in a canyon race and i tboned him but he didn't move an inch

i mean hello??? he should fly way like a firetruck bird if i t-bone him at 280km/h!!! but no he just kept going :/

Laudy · Post by **Laudy** » 01 Dec 2006, 16:11

joablo wrote:wich will lead us to a crap game :/ i mean common!! for not so many minuts ago i raced against wolf in his lambo in a canyon race and i tboned him but he didn't move an inch i mean hello??? he should fly way like a firetruck bird if i t-bone him at 280km/h!!! but no he just kept going :/

As for that, EA never really made the effort for physics (they put in lines - less work) only

Porsche 2000

. You could actually feel the car...

Laudy · Post by **Laudy** » 01 Dec 2006, 22:53

How do you know that the next NFS is going to be crappy?

...the ES have done it yet again; I mean: a FHM babe in a NFS.

Come on, man! I know they want to sell the game to a wider range of people, but man 25 - 50?!?. Anyone see the irony/sarcasm/STUPIDITY???

How about that appeal? Doesnt it sound better?(you DONT want an erotic racing game)

Ceano · Post by **Ceano** » 01 Dec 2006, 23:18

Well if EA doesn't make some major changes to the AI i wont even bother to try the game, I'm so tired of that AI can toss you around like a wet glove and when you hit them they just drive on like nothing has happened but your car spins like in frenzy. Also the LAME catch up system has to be removed and replaced with SMART AI that doesn't drive like on a rail road, this isn't 1999 any more its freaking 2007 soon.

itay1r · Post by **itay1r** » 02 Dec 2006, 00:21

Ceano wrote:Well if EA doesn't make some major changes to the AI i wont even bother to try the game, I'm so tired of that AI can toss you around like a wet glove and when you hit them they just drive on like nothing has happened but your car spins like in frenzy. Also the LAME catch up system has to be removed and replaced with SMART AI that doesn't drive like on a rail road, this isn't 1999 any more its freaking 2007 soon.

so true that its sad

Post by **YaelDjiel** » 02 Dec 2006, 01:27

speaking of nfs story...
have you guys actually noticed this so called story has been the same since U1?
you start either as nothing or as big shot
some jerk screws you over and you start with some crappy car working your way up till you beat the guy and end up getting useless ending....

you exit MW with the M3, you start carbon with it and end carbon with the R8
i'll bet 50 (virtual) bucks that nfs11 will start you off in the R8 where you lose to some other d00d, again start in some lame slow car working your way up ending with some other overpowered vehicle... only to start over yet *again* with the same thing in nfs12

EA needs to worry less about the quick easy money and release a truely proper game so it will keeps fan instead of getting rid of them like is happening now..

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 02 Dec 2006, 01:36

yea ea does need to stop worrying about if their gonna get money and more focused on the game and the nfs community(to help the game)

EDit: i think most game company oughta listen to their community

korge · Post by **korge** » 02 Dec 2006, 12:59

does this sound like a bad idea? The game should start with EVERYTHING already unlocked and you must earn money and choose what u want to spend you money on, whether its a more fancy car or just some high end rims.

Post by **Morty** » 03 Dec 2006, 01:27

korge wrote:does this sound like a bad idea? The game should start with EVERYTHING already unlocked and you must earn money and choose what u want to spend you money on, whether its a more fancy car or just some high end rims.

Sounds a bit retro, kinda like the old games. Which is NOT a bad thing.

So no, not a bad idea.

StreekG · Post by **StreekG** » 03 Dec 2006, 02:37

omg_drifting_firetruck wrote:i think Carbon is fine the way it is except for the random crashes to desktops

So is that just a bug and not my graphics card overheating, my Radeon 9550 didn't come with a fan so i assumed it just overheats and the game crashes as a result.

EcksOa · Post by **EcksOa** » 03 Dec 2006, 03:35

StreekG wrote: So is that just a bug and not my graphics card overheating, my Radeon 9550 didn't come with a fan so i assumed it just overheats and the game crashes as a result.

I have a Radeon 9800 with a fan, lots of graphics features turned off or dialed down and I still get the same results. Very common for people. It seems to be more of a stability issue on EA's part.

xturbo · Post by **xturbo** » 03 Dec 2006, 05:01

I just want LaPierre quit the nfs team soon....that's what i want really.....

joablo · Post by **joablo** » 03 Dec 2006, 21:07

EA should get the award for best bug ever -.- crashing to desktop that is

Abrams · Post by **Abrams** » 03 Dec 2006, 21:35

I wouldnt call Carbon a game that failed. Its good, nice content. The only problem with that is that if before EA went with Quantity > Quality now they seem to change it into Quality > Small Quantity. I mean customizing is good, main idea is good and such, AI looks much better. But game could do with more tracks, more parts and longer story. ofc if EA takes down cheaters online completly then ill be more then happy to race online rather then offline.

UnDeRtAkEr2k · Post by **UnDeRtAkEr2k** » 04 Dec 2006, 00:05

Abrams wrote:I would call Carbon a game that failed. Its good, nice content. The only problem with that is that if before EA went with Quantity > Quality now they seem to change it into Quality > Small Quantity. I mean customizing is good, main idea is good and such, AI looks much better. But game could do with more tracks, more parts and longer story. ofc if EA takes down cheaters online completly then ill be more then happy to race online rather then offline.

I am so there with you Abrams ... that takes all the fun out of it. It is like what happen to the ole days when you could go online and play and not have to worry about the other person cheating

Post by **TheStig** » 04 Dec 2006, 08:20

joablo wrote:EA should get the award for best bug ever -.- crashing to desktop that is

on the PC I had 2 crashes that made my complete PC crash.... and I had to reboot.

Never had that with a game before (atleast not a game that was brand new and build for the operating system that your using.)

Abrams · Post by **Abrams** » 04 Dec 2006, 10:40

UnDeRtAkEr2k wrote:
Abrams wrote:I would call Carbon a game that failed. Its good, nice content. The only problem with that is that if before EA went with Quantity > Quality now they seem to change it into Quality > Small Quantity. I mean customizing is good, main idea is good and such, AI looks much better. But game could do with more tracks, more parts and longer story. ofc if EA takes down cheaters online completly then ill be more then happy to race online rather then offline.
I am so there with you Abrams ... that takes all the fun out of it. It is like what happen to the ole days when you could go online and play and not have to worry about the other person cheating

ugh lol, in first sentence of my post i said would in place of wouldnt.

p.s. It crashed for me twice but no reboot, just to desktop.

Zpectre · Post by **Zpectre** » 05 Dec 2006, 04:39

Ceano wrote:Well if EA doesn't make some major changes to the AI i wont even bother to try the game, I'm so tired of that AI can toss you around like a wet glove and when you hit them they just drive on like nothing has happened but your car spins like in frenzy. Also the LAME catch up system has to be removed and replaced with SMART AI that doesn't drive like on a rail road, this isn't 1999 any more its freaking 2007 soon.

In 1999 (NFS4) you could actually tailgate AI racers and smash them against walls...

SomeKindOfMonster · Post by **SomeKindOfMonster** » 05 Dec 2006, 05:45

You wouldn't have crashing issues if you played on console

Laudy · Post by **Laudy** » 05 Dec 2006, 16:14

But still...not even one aspect of the game is perfect and in overall, its just lame.

Hey! autosculpt; no, just a little customizing parts, too bad...

Pursuits, hmm lets see - dont need them actually...

Story...khm....yes quite...

Gameplay - do I need to repeat your thouhgts(AI, repeating tracks...)

But there is a good side, IMO, the cars, not the tier system, just the cars. Their presence, just so they are there, and they are tunable....speed......

SuperString · Post by **SuperString** » 05 Dec 2006, 18:16

l2k wrote:Try to look from other perspective, imo, EA has put some serious effort in Carbon, like incoperating popular racing ( "touge", drifting), bigger car list, etc. However, EA is not Blizzard, they put earning at the 1st place. Would you make a game per year with moderate improvement over last one, or, would you make 1 game that costs you a good 3 years ? Is why Blizzard made some uber games, but EA earns much more than Blizzard imo.

Actually Blizzard got a lot more with WOW, and Burning crusade is going to double it. Just to think, in the beginning there were more than 3 million on-line players that gave almost 50$ for the game plus 30$ every 3 months...
EA lost much this year, and if they don't do something, it's going to go downhills for them, maybe even ends with closure of some studios. My opinion is that they need to stop making sport games for PC, because, if i want to play football-basketball, i'll do it in real world not computer. They need to produce more quality RTS (in last couple of months, hell, years, there hasn't been one really good strategy), racing games (most of us can't afford Porsche or Lambo to race on track) and action-adventure.