TECH TALK - ask your technical car questions

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 09 Jan 2007, 05:51

okay im getting a widebody s13 with an SR20DET can i put on a 4.5 inch lip wheel and not get messed up.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 09 Jan 2007, 10:28

viper16 wrote:okay im getting a widebody s13 with an SR20DET can i put on a 4.5 inch lip wheel and not get messed up.

In Aberdeen? What a stupid idea. Of course they would get messed up. The ammount of road salt and grit used in the UK would pit the lips beyond belief.
As to actually fitting a wheel with such large a lip? Well that entirey depends on how wide the aforementioned body kit is. But at a guess, 4.5" is going to be a 12" or 13" wheel minimum, and that's a liiiiitle large for anything, unless it's out on the rears of something with a hell of a lot of horsepower.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 09 Jan 2007, 17:19

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The one on the right 110mm Lip

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The Kit

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 09 Jan 2007, 19:28

That kit is beyond fugly.

Please lock yourself up in your room.

HashiriyaGDB · Post by **HashiriyaGDB** » 09 Jan 2007, 20:21

Wheels good, kit BAAAAAAAAAAAD!

BTW, have you seen the dyno numbers for the S13 you're planning on getting? Those Axis wheels make sense if the engine's producing at least 400 BHP.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 09 Jan 2007, 20:44

I smell grade A shiznit.
No-one from Aberdeen would get either those alloys OR that kit.

In another thread, viper16 wrote:i would know i am only 15 trying to get one of these.

That explains it then. Just a kid.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 00:56

well mine wont exactly look like that and im looking at having around 500hp.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 01:55

LOL. You make me cry inside a little every time you post.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 02:04

hey it might you dont know

Post by **TheStig** » 10 Jan 2007, 02:07

A other never ending story.

How I love kids that don't have a license and no clue what it takes and costs to own a car in real life.

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 02:19

viper16 wrote:hey it might you dont know

Then youll realise that, at 18 having just passed your test and probably still being in education, you cant afford the Â£4000+ it costs just to buy a 180SX, plus the import costs. Youll also probably find that insurance companies will laugh at you for even wanting a standard one, you wont have time to reel off a spec list big enough for 500bhp before they either die laughing, or put the phone down on you. I had the same problem, and I was 19 when I tried...

Even if a miracle happened and you got one, I dont think youd realise just how crippling fuel costs are. Im running just shy of 300bhp on a very mild set-up, on average I expect to see 15mpg. Doesnt mean a lot in figures, so Ill put it like this:

I know the people of the two nearest Shell petrol stations on first name terms since I bought this car a year ago. Thats 8 different members of staff in stations four miles apart. Why do I know them so well? Because part of my daily routine before work is a trip to fill up on V-Power, which currently is 94.9p per litre. I have to use V-Power due to the HD chip on the car, and to prevent any knock. On average, just going to work and back, I spend Â£10 per day on fuel. Thats before driving to friends houses, before going to car meets, trackdays, even shopping...

If we meet in 5 years time, I wont be surprised at all if youre driving a Renault Clio. I wouldnt blame you either.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 02:31

they dont have renaults here either. And this is it We got the 240SX for under $10000 swap the KA24DE put in the S15 SR20DET ($5000) and a bunch of HKS parts and it will be fine cause our gas is $2.75 a gallon

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 02:57

Although V-Power is 99RON, SR20DETS in Japan run often on 102RON or higher. Most stations in the US dont offer petrol above 93RON, some 95, and very few offer 97. I know this from the US SX boards, LS1tech, Honda-Tech...just a few of the numerous US-based car forums Im part of.

If youre buying a 240SX, why did you mention the 180SX? Of course you do realise the work involved in swapping the SR in dont you? Youre looking at a lot more than that for an S15 SR, bearing in mind you will personally have to get it shipped from Japan. Youll also need an S15 ECU, S15 6-speed box, S15 wiring loom, along with a host of other SR parts that youll need to transfer...Also, why HKS parts? Im going to take a wild stab in the dark and say that the point to which youve thought this through is that ''Im 15, so I want one''.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:11

Here it isit was at http://www.japanmotorimport.com/JDM_eng ... 0S15_1997+

Company: Nissan
Code: SR20DET S15
Year: 1997+
Valve Train: DOHC, 4 Cylinder
Displacement: 1998
Horse Power: 250@6400rpm
Torque: 203lbs-ft@4800rpm
Compression: 10.0:1
Red Line: -
Transmission: Hydraulic

Price: $3500 USD + shipping

For More Information Call 1 866 369 3330

PARTSINCLUDED

SR20DET S15 Engine 6 Speed Transmission
ECU Uncut Wiring Harness
MAF sensor Intake Manifold
Fuel Rail Injectors
Exhaust Manifold Turbo
A/C Compressor Cam-Angle Sensor
Alternator Starter

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:27

*Sigh*

Reasons why that isnt legitimate:

-The S15 didnt even start being produced until 1999. Up until that point, youre looking at the S14A, which used the previous generation of SR, and made 197bhp.

-The SR20DET from a spec-R has 8.5:1 compression ratio. The figure quoted there is the comp. ratio for the spec-S/Varietta, which is an N/A engine.

- You wouldnt need the MAF sensor as a seperate item, it should come with the engine. Same goes for the T28 turbo, the exhaust manifold, CAS, injectors...need I go on? Those arent ancillaries, theyre main parts. Theyre adding those as a ''wow, look what you get!!'' to make it seem impressive, in reality, theyre missing some key components. Namely:

1. PAS pump
2. Youll need your own KA ECU harness to butcher
3. KA dashboard water temp. sensor
4. Propshaft
5. Diff with an ABS sensor
6. Frequency convertor board
7. SR radiator/pipes
8. SR metal outlet 'hot pipe' from turbo
9. KA accelerator cable bracket holder from plenum
10. SR heater hoses
11. SR brass restrictor from fuel return pipe
12. SR ECU carrier

Then you have to factor in the compatability issues between the SR models, for example with the CAS and AFM. If you dont get the NATS parts from the same car, it wont start at all.

Then theres no mention of wiring...

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:32

go to http://www.g-dimension.com or http://www.superiornissanmotorsports.com and they have everything

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:33

Im going to put this politely, and as a summary. You dont have the knowledge or finances to build that car. Id put money on you never achieving either of the above to build it.

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:36

i will Project Car Mag did it gor under 8000 and made 200HP

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:38

They made 200bhp from an SR20DET? Well strike me down, its not like it makes that stock or anything...

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:40

it was messed up thats why

Fishwhiz · Post by **Fishwhiz** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:46

i have a noob question:

is there such thing as a rear engine front wheel drive car?

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:51

no one would ever do that

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 03:58

heres the ad i wanted it haas everything

Silvia/240SX S15 SR20DET 99+ - Engine, MT Trans, ECU, Wiring Harness, MAF Sensor & Ignitor Chip

Specifications
DOHC 4cyl. 16val. 2.0L Turbo (T28)
â€¢ Year: 99+
â€¢ HP: 250hp@6000rpm
â€¢ Torque: 203lbs-ft@4000rpm
â€¢ Diplacement: 1998cc
â€¢ Compression Ratio: 8.5:1

List Of Parts Included
â€¢ Complete Motor
- Block
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Sensors
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Cam Angle Sensor
- Throttle Body
- Alternator
- Starter
- Ignition Wires
- Pulleys
- Turbo manifold
- Turbocharger

â€¢ 6-Speed RWD Transmission(Close Ratio)

â€¢ Computer(ECU)

â€¢ Wiring Harness(complete)

â€¢ Ignitor Chip

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 10 Jan 2007, 04:01

no need to double post, there's an edit button

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 10 Jan 2007, 04:04

usually messes up when i use it