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behold the veyron killer
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Koenigsegg, perhaps the quintessential boutique supercar maker, is at it again with two road rockets making their debut in Geneva. The first is the CCGT, based on the 806-hp CCX but—get this—detuned to comply with GT1 racing regulations. The V-8 engine was bored out to 5.0 liters from the CCX’s 4.7 but lost the superchargers, resulting in “just” 600 horsepower. However, weight was reduced to a supermodel-skinny 2200 pounds, which should leave the CCGT plenty fast, thank you.

The other sweet Swede on the Koenigsegg stand would make anyone want to, as GM might say, “go yellow.” The Koenigsegg CCXR is basically a CCX engineered to burn E85 ethanol. And whereas a supercar that burns corn oil might seem ridiculous, consider the outcome of Koenigsegg’s efforts: 1018 horsepower at 7200 rpm and 780 pound-feet of torque at 6100 rpm. This is due to the fact that biofuel has a higher octane and different cooling characteristics, according to Koenigsegg, which claims that even its own engineers were surprised with such results. Not that owners would care, but fuel economy—typically 30 percent worse when running E85—will certainly never exceed the single digits.

Otherwise, the CCXR is pretty much identical to the CCX, which is certainly no toad from a looks standpoint. Indeed, it’s bound to be the only E85-burning vehicle of any genre or vintage to make it onto the bedroom walls of teenagers around the world.

What’s wrong? You already have a CCX and want the extra potency of the CCXR? Not to worry, you can bring yours into the shop (in Sweden) for a factory conversion.
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^^ actually its this one http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2 ... g-CCXR.htm

but still, it looks and performs better than the veyron :)
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ooops thaks slim it was the CCXR, the CCGT "only" has 600 horsepower :lol:
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i love those ccx'rs! they are by far my favorite car.
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The '09 NSX makes me sad. :( A front engine V10? What was wrong with a mid engine V6? Not to mention it's absolutely horrid compared to the original.
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agree and it might not have atleast 500 hp (heard 450) though a v10 with vtec does sound interesting maybe slap on a turbo but make it a mid engine sports car for heavens sake
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VTEC Turbo?
No power below 3500rpm FTW!
God, that would be HORRIBLE to drive.
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meh put a small turbo or low inertia turbo on so it spools up quicker or what the hell throw some twins on it to take care of turbo lag. i also heard you can control when vtec comes on. for example in most cars vtec comes on around 5200 rpm well i dont know exactly how but you can make it so it comes on alot earlier like 3000 rpm.
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Small or low inertia turbo = very little effect at high RPM either.
So it's the worst of both world.s

Twin turbo in an already highly strung 4-banger = really bad idea, unless you like picking up your bottom end in a bucket.
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im talking about the v10 nsx. the small turbo would take care of the low-end while vtec would take care of the high end.
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Just read an article on the new Elfin Clubman limited edition, they look like a tough little car. Supercharged LS1 and weighing in at only 1100kg.
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damn thats really light. light+supercharged v8= very fast. my dream car though would be carol shelby's supercharged cobra with 800 hp
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does anyone even like the new evo concept?
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i do i think it looks meaner. any word on how much hp it will have ? north of 300 i hope
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It's hardly new. But yeah, it looks pretty good.
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The new Corvette is SWEET!
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um, what new corvette?
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The new one. :wink:
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you mean the one everyone already knows about that has been around all year?
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if your talking about the one that is supposed to arrive in 2009 with around 700 hp and weigh < 3000 lbs then yea it sounds pretty sweet. im curious though what iits competition will have to offer then also
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well theres the 09 stingray and the 09 ss. the stingray is pretty much a z06 with a different hood and a more powerful engine, as the ss is pretty much the c6r street version... which one are you talking about?
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Post by xHaZxMaTx »

Tuners Rock wrote:does anyone even like the new evo concept?
You're not talking about this, are you? It's not a concept, I saw one on the street the other day. Anyway, I think it looks pretty nifty.
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I like it, but they killed the Evo. :cry:
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i dont like the front end on the new evo. looks kinda fugly. either that or ot dosent look good behind showroom glass.
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