Coolest cars you've seen

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 12 Oct 2006, 23:31

That's American engineering for you.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 13 Oct 2006, 02:50

tho sadly if you read alot of car reliability reports it is the European cars that fare the worse, range rover, BMW, Aston martin, and some audi's , etc all have below average reliability compared to a toyota or honda

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 13 Oct 2006, 03:19

Not surprising, but American are even worse than that, I can assure you.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 13 Oct 2006, 04:52

maybe some, but i read in the consumer reports cars for 2006 that the big three generally did better reliability wise than their european counterparts, it was the japanese automakers that ran away with the reliability rating though. i think it is because the japanese dont try to please the common man which the big three do, nowadays it seems like in the USA if your brand new car/truck doesnt have 300+ HP then its not worth it even mercedes who is not well known for reliability has made a 500 + hp minivan ( R-series AMG ) for all those grocery getting soccer moms who like to do atleast 90 mph when the limit is 55 mph

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 13 Oct 2006, 14:13

Audi are very good on reliability. BMW are if you don't include major things (VANOS failure in the E36 M3 Evo, S54B32 engines exploding due to oil starvation ect ect.)
The same cannot be said about Mercades.
The yanks (and to some extent the Japanese) have long been the masters of making utterly useless cars. Dodge Ram SRT and Nissan Cube anyone?

Post by **TheStig** » 13 Oct 2006, 21:08

Untill a few years ago Japanese cars where almost always ugly and super dull, but they almost never broke down.
It was the big strong point of a car like a Toyota and Honda.
Recently Toyota and Honda are building and designing their cars there where they are uses.
Almost all the european toyota's are build in europe, only the Landcruiser is still build in Japan.
And by doing that they made them look alot more appealing then before. For instance cars like the Toyota Avensis (current model) is a very popular car in the business and lease market. the previous model was also build in the UK but it was designed in Japan. wich made it rather dull.
Now it combines the 2 good things from the 2 continents, european design and Japanese engineering.

If you read the reliability reports Honda and Toyota are always on the top, same for customer satisfaction.
The last version I read (month ago) had Toyota and Honda at place 1 and 2. the end of the list was ruled by Fiat Alfa and Chevrolet.

Not suprising that Fiat and Alfa Romeo where there cause they still build rubbish cars, Alfa's do look nice but they break down before the even leave the dealership.

A friend of mine has a Alfa 159 wagon. within a month he had starting problems, he still has alarm problems, his alarm goes of when ever it pleases.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 13 Oct 2006, 21:35

The Avensis is one of the dullest cars ever. That's why they are so popular on the buisness market; it's a cheaper alternative to a BMW or Audi that has a similar feel inside at half the cost.
Lexus seem to be doing a roaring trade too, as their cars are the most secure on the market.

Fiat's are fairly rubbish on the hole, but Alfas are brilliant when they aren't being towed around on the back of an RAC truck.

Tyrant · Post by **Tyrant** » 13 Oct 2006, 22:52

In Holland supercars are very expensive (BPM is a very high tax for cars), so not many exotics here. I once saw a Tuscan in Manchester, that's about it (which I can remember).

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 14 Oct 2006, 03:17

huh i didnt know alfa's were rubbish i guess its because we never see one over here

if you want to talk reliability then look at semi trucks which can easily get over 1.5 million miles before needing a overhaul. but mostly the cars you see dead on the side of the road are the ones that look like that if a stiff wind came along the glass windows would blow out and it can be any car

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 14 Oct 2006, 10:38

Mercades E300 TDI engines have the reputation for being able to turn their clocks without need for any overhaul.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 14 Oct 2006, 18:41

o yea ive seen some of those old mercedes diesels with over a million miles still puttering around, makes me wonder why they drive such a now rare car with a lot of miles around highways and such

Matt_N · Post by **Matt_N** » 14 Oct 2006, 22:07

Today I saw:
Aston Martin Vanquish S
Aston Martin DB9
TVR Cerbera
TVR Tuscan
TVR Sagaris
Lamborghini Gallardo
2 Ferrari 355's
Ferrari F430
4 Porsche 911 GT2's
2 Bentley Continental GT's
2 New S class mercs
Several old Rollers
A few old Bentleys, including a Continental from the 50's

Matt

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 14 Oct 2006, 22:37

where were you when you saw all of those sweet cars

Sweet-16 · Post by **Sweet-16** » 15 Oct 2006, 04:12

the other day i was in town and there's a nice auto shop. and this guy had a open header firebird formula and maybe a cam with some nice lift to it... i almost started drooling on myself >_>

xturbo · Post by **xturbo** » 15 Oct 2006, 04:23

Matt_N wrote:Today I saw:
Aston Martin Vanquish S
Aston Martin DB9
TVR Cerbera
TVR Tuscan
TVR Sagaris
Lamborghini Gallardo
2 Ferrari 355's
Ferrari F430
4 Porsche 911 GT2's
2 Bentley Continental GT's
2 New S class mercs
Several old Rollers
A few old Bentleys, including a Continental from the 50's

Matt

seems that u live in a rich city...

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 15 Oct 2006, 19:13

I was in central london yesterday. I saw
2x Ferrari F430's (both convertable)
2x 575 Marenello
1x Ferrari Superamerica
2x Gallardo Spyder
2x Murcielago
1x Murcielago LM640 (Pics to prove it if anyone wants) with a custom exhaust:::Best engine sound ever
2x 997 911 Turbo's
2x AM V8's
And the list goes on.

Driv2Slow · Post by **Driv2Slow** » 16 Oct 2006, 03:20

steelsnake00 wrote:I was in central london yesterday. I saw
2x Ferrari F430's (both convertable)
2x 575 Marenello
1x Ferrari Superamerica
2x Gallardo Spyder
2x Murcielago
1x Murcielago LM640 (Pics to prove it if anyone wants) with a custom exhaust:::Best engine sound ever
2x 997 911 Turbo's
2x AM V8's
And the list goes on.

lets see the Murcielago LM640 plz, i never herd of it. i dont see many Lambo's anyway here in america

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 16 Oct 2006, 03:38

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/1 ... rsace.html

it is not the LM640 it is the LP640 the 640 stands for how much horsepower

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 16 Oct 2006, 10:39

Here we are, an LP640 with custom Capristo exhaust.

bashderq · Post by **bashderq** » 16 Oct 2006, 11:51

That exhaust is hideous...calling it 'unique' still doesnt hide the fact is fugly.

xHaZxMaTx · Post by **xHaZxMaTx** » 16 Oct 2006, 11:54

You're telling me. It's worse than the Zonda.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 16 Oct 2006, 14:06

bashderq wrote:That exhaust is hideous...calling it 'unique' still doesnt hide the fact is fugly.

It sounded like a F1 car though.
*dribbles*

RVD · Post by **RVD** » 16 Oct 2006, 14:56

Driv2Slow wrote:
steelsnake00 wrote:I was in central london yesterday. I saw
2x Ferrari F430's (both convertable)
2x 575 Marenello
1x Ferrari Superamerica
2x Gallardo Spyder
2x Murcielago
1x Murcielago LM640 (Pics to prove it if anyone wants) with a custom exhaust:::Best engine sound ever
2x 997 911 Turbo's
2x AM V8's
And the list goes on.
lets see the Murcielago LM640 plz, i never herd of it. i dont see many Lambo's anyway here in america

search at google

and like Tyrant said, here in Holland, BPM is boosting the pricetag of cars way up, the only cool cars ive seen so far were a Maserati Spyder, a Ferrari F430 and a Lamborghini Gallardo...

Matt_N · Post by **Matt_N** » 17 Oct 2006, 22:33

Saw a red Honda NSX parked outside the local shop yesterday and it looked amazing!!

Matt

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 18 Oct 2006, 01:04

Theyre gorgeous cars. Definitely one of those or a '69 Camaro Z/28 for me next.