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Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 20 Aug 2008, 19:13
by RSZETEC
As in my mates old sleeper, a mk5 ford cortina estate complete with orange disabled sticker in the back and steels wheels powered by a 450bhp cossie engine :lol: id have loved to the the porsche 911 owners face on the nurburgring when he overtook him :lol:

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 07 Sep 2008, 01:33
by Striker94
Audi RS6 or RS4, or maybe a Volkswagon R36...

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 09 Sep 2008, 20:03
by viper16
ER34 Skyline. hey its a 4 Door GTR

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 05:51
by RedCarDriver
Technically it's not, a GT-R has AWD ATTESA ET-S and the RB26DETT engine while a base R34 25GT-T Sedan (or Coupe), or above (until the GT-R itself), only has RWD and the RB25DET, which develops far less power. Now, you COULD effectively make a four-door BNR34 GT-R by taking the ER34 Sedan body and putting it onto the BNR34 GT-R chassis with the all-wheel-drive system and then putting the RB26DETT into it, but that would be WAAAAY costly.

And for that much effort you could make a much better sleeper: a Prius body with a Supra Turbo, IS300, or Soarer chassis / engine :lol:

(you'd have to take the "Hybrid Synergy Drive" badge and blue w/clouds license plates off though :lol: )

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 10:22
by boganbusman
RedCarDriver wrote:Technically it's not, a GT-R has AWD ATTESA ET-S and the RB26DETT engine while a base R34 25GT-T Sedan (or Coupe), or above (until the GT-R itself), only has RWD and the RB25DET, which develops far less power. Now, you COULD effectively make a four-door BNR34 GT-R by taking the ER34 Sedan body and putting it onto the BNR34 GT-R chassis with the all-wheel-drive system and then putting the RB26DETT into it, but that would be WAAAAY costly.

And for that much effort you could make a much better sleeper: a Prius body with a Supra Turbo, IS300, or Soarer chassis / engine :lol:

(you'd have to take the "Hybrid Synergy Drive" badge and blue w/clouds license plates off though :lol: )
Do you understand what a monocoque chassis is?

You can't just take the body from a Skyline and drop it over another chassis :roll: To make a 4-door GT-R, all you need to do is get the 4 door car and swap the driveline from the GT-R. Prop shaft might need lengthening or whatever, but that's not a big deal.
Well I'm not sure if it's quite that simple but physically splicing two Skylines together would be a nightmare.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 00:38
by TheStig
I was about to say the same, I think someone watches to many hodrod tv programs.
Back in the 60's you could do that with your Cuda.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 04:44
by RedCarDriver
Okay, by "chassis" I meant "drivetrain" - okay, I'm bad with technical terms (so maybe I shouldn't be talking about this :lol: ). I was mostly using the "Civette" project (Civic body on Corvette drivetrain and engine; apparently most of the Civic chassis was kept) as my reference for how this would work; however, seeing as the Skyline GT-R and Skyline Sedan are more similar this would be more feasible and fewer parts from the GT-R would probably have to be carried over.

(technicality food chain anyone? :lol: )

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 20:59
by volvo_t5
bmw m5 man ultimate sleeper

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 16 Sep 2008, 01:17
by RedCarDriver
Uh, did you need to post that twice?

Yeah, though, the M5 (especially the E39) is one of the best.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 07 Nov 2008, 20:25
by bluestreak908
yeah i think the old m5 like the one in hp2 is the best sleeper- the new one is more "radical" looking and more likely to be noticed

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 07 Nov 2008, 20:36
by viper16
Dodge Challenger(New One)
Nissan Silvia S15

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 09 Nov 2008, 13:56
by XCROSSX
Nissan Stagea R34 GT-R :roll:

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 09 Nov 2008, 15:07
by baumaxx1
Yep, the stagea. It's an R34 GTR, but it looks like a volvo, lol.

But Dodge challenger and S15 no way! They look like sports cars. I wouldn't even call an R35 GTR a sleeper unless a Zonda or Koenigsegg was your target on a mountain road.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 09 Nov 2008, 19:34
by RedCarDriver
XCROSSX wrote:Nissan Stagea R34 GT-R :roll:
Yeah, that's definitely quite a sleeper. Also, it's "Nissan Stagea WC34 2.6RS", not "R34 GT-R" - although it shares an engine and many other components, it's not named the same way.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 09 Nov 2008, 20:53
by XCROSSX
Well, I'm not very familiar with the car, I just saw a mod for GTA once.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 07:34
by Koenigsegg_Rox
There was a TRX Bluebird at the Legend Of The Lakes that was extremely quick, yet it was outlandishly quiet compared to the rest of the field, and stock as a rock in looks.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 16:11
by XCROSSX
Prolly not the best, but a good one. Mercedes E 63 AMG

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 20:09
by korge
Pontiac G8

Best darn stock vehicle on the strip for under $25k

8)

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 20:30
by XCROSSX
korge wrote:Pontiac G8

Best darn stock vehicle on the strip for under $25k

8)
Ummm... I wouldn't call a G8 a sleeper...

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 22:06
by xHaZxMaTx
Well he would. :-s

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 22:34
by PSZeTa
XCROSSX wrote:
korge wrote:Pontiac G8

Best darn stock vehicle on the strip for under $25k

8)
Ummm... I wouldn't call a G8 a sleeper...
Wouldn't call an E63 with AMG bodykit and 4 exhaust pipes protruding from the back a sleeper either.. :?

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 11 Nov 2008, 18:02
by XCROSSX
PSZeTa wrote:Wouldn't call an E63 with AMG bodykit and 4 exhaust pipes protruding from the back a sleeper either.. :?
Still it's an elegant car (I actually think that it's the worst merc ever but anyway) And it's quite hard to believe that i would pwn some pretty fast sports cars.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 12 Nov 2008, 05:17
by Koenigsegg_Rox
No it isn't. Anything with AMG badges on it is bound to sound good and go like a bat outta hell. On the other hand, a decent sleeper would be the 135i Coupe. Twin-turbo V6 without showing it in the looks.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 12 Nov 2008, 08:50
by baumaxx1
Koenigsegg_Rox wrote:No it isn't. Anything with AMG badges on it is bound to sound good and go like a bat outta hell. On the other hand, a decent sleeper would be the 135i Coupe. Twin-turbo V6 without showing it in the looks.
Agree... people would just see it as a baby Beemer, it it can make the M3 nervous.

Re: Best sleeper car when stock?

Posted: 12 Nov 2008, 14:09
by steelsnake00
baumaxx1 wrote:it can make the M3 nervous.
It's quicker than the E30 and E36 non evo (200/215/238bhp and 286bhp respectively) but it's heavier (and slower) than the E36 M3 Evo (321bhp) and a lot slower than the E46 and E90 M3 (343/360bhp and 414bhp)