Forza Motorsports

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 24 May 2005, 01:15

Engine swaps?

Wow. :[ *drools*

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 24 May 2005, 01:16

Yeah i would (:[drools) too

master m · Post by **master m** » 24 May 2005, 18:40

I've bought it last week and I' currently in level 15 (I think). This really IS the best Race-Sim EVER

. Handeling/tuning is very realistic. And I like the fact that you can style & tune almost every car.

mohsan1988 · Post by **mohsan1988** » 24 May 2005, 19:50

Forza Motorsports is brilliant if you've got an XBox but nothing can beat Gran Turismo 4 or the Upcoming Gran Turismo Vision.

Gran Turismo has already been through 4 games of perfection... they know what they are doing out there....

On the other hand, I'm not saying Forza Motorsport is bad, I am just saying it hasn't been perfected yet.

Agreed, It offers better Tuning options but I wrote this to oppose master m who said:

master m wrote:This really IS the best Race-Sim EVER

This isn't the case as the Gran Turismo Series has always been the BEST simulator.

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 24 May 2005, 22:23

I wrote this to oppose Mohsan1988

master m wrote:
This really IS the best Race-Sim EVER

this is correct

mohsan1988 · Post by **mohsan1988** » 24 May 2005, 22:55

ok, if you're going to post something to oppose someone argue your case.

Like I said before, Gran Turismo series has been perfected as it's been progressing. Forza, however, is the first in it's line and doesn't have the base of perfection yet, and probably never will.

GT4 has better graphics, more realistic gameplay, and has a wider selection of cars.

The ONLY thing, IMO, that Forza beats GT4 in is the tuning option. Cars can be tuned better in Forza

EDIT**: I didn't mean tuned better, I meant there are more tuning options

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 24 May 2005, 23:48

It's that Forza is a real complete game. I mean, what do you want more? You've got engine swaps, bodykits, vinyls etc. They simply looked at the GT games and pretty much worked out some other parts to create a nice racing game. The racing tracks however, look very boring to me.

But still, nothing can beat the great Gran Turismo style. It's already fun to drive those shiznit slow cars, I really enjoy it when I play GT4. It's not a real simulator, the driving is slightly arcade-ish, with tints of simulation.

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 24 May 2005, 23:57

Forza has:

1. better graphics
2. more visual car realism
3. real tracks that are amazingly close to the real ones
4. weather that changes and effects tire wear grip and other aspects
5. tuning is much more extensive and better
6. should I go on??

R34GTR · Post by **R34GTR** » 25 May 2005, 00:14

I got Forza on Saturday and WOW, it is AWESOME

Drewb99 · Post by **Drewb99** » 25 May 2005, 00:29

mohsan1988 wrote:ok, if you're going to post something to oppose someone argue your case.

Like I said before, Gran Turismo series has been perfected as it's been progressing. Forza, however, is the first in it's line and doesn't have the base of perfection yet, and probably never will.

GT4 has better graphics, more realistic gameplay, and has a wider selection of cars.

The ONLY thing, IMO, that Forza beats GT4 in is the tuning option. Cars can be tuned better in Forza

EDIT**: I didn't mean tuned better, I meant there are more tuning options

Forza calculates physics more than twice as many times per second, has better physics overall (check the telemetry view in replays), damage, and AI (which would be a stretch to use in association with GT4). GT's not much of a sim either- with 700 cars, less than a fourth of those could have enough data from the real cars to put together something that drives like its real counterpart. GT4 has rain and a Honda Odyssey and that's about all I'll give it, PZ-man summed it up pretty well that GT4's audience is more of a casual crowd.

mohsan1988 · Post by **mohsan1988** » 25 May 2005, 13:28

ViperGT wrote:Forza has:

1. better graphics
2. more visual car realism
3. real tracks that are amazingly close to the real ones
4. weather that changes and effects tire wear grip and other aspects
5. tuning is much more extensive and better
6. should I go on??

1) Forza DOESN'T have better graphics. go to neowin.net and read their review of Forza vs. Gran Turismo.

PROVEN that GT4 has better graphics.

2) More visual car realism???? what are you talking about? that's rubbish, the only plus side of the Forza visual side is that it can have more body kit's and more Ricer Stuff.

3) Tracks are amazing? they are pretty boring I would say, Gran Turismo has a wider variety of tracks and therefore you won't get as bored easily.

4) Weather that changes and all that? well I can't really oppose you there because I never really noticed it much (I rented the game for a week, so glad I didn't buy it)

5) Tuning is more extensive... you are right there... more parts enabled...

Better? No. Gran Turismo Designers worked with the actual car companies, I.e. Honda, Nissan, etc to come out with the BEST overall performance realism figures to this day.

6)You can go on if you like... I don't really care, won't change my mind.

Post by **TheStig** » 25 May 2005, 17:15

I like forza but there is 1 problem... I have to buy a XBOX for it...

and knowing the new gen of consoles is around the corner... I don't know if it is worth it to buy a XBOX or even a PS2 for GT4 that is (other games I really don't care about ... only Forza and GT4 are a reason for me to buy a (or 2) consoles

mohsan1988 · Post by **mohsan1988** » 25 May 2005, 17:51

I think you should wait and get either:

XBox 360 OR
Playstation 3.

But that's my personal opinion.

I also think that you shouldn't get an xbox just for Forza

boganbusman · Post by **boganbusman** » 26 May 2005, 09:40

mohsan1988 wrote:I also think that you shouldn't get an xbox just for Forza

Why not? I bought a PS2 just to get GT4

It's still the only PS2 game I own. It should be called a GT4station instead of a Playstsation

master m · Post by **master m** » 26 May 2005, 22:38

I saw an advert from "Media Markt", where you can buy an Xbox/Forza-pack. It includes:
- 1 Xbox
- 2 controllers
- Forza Motorsport
- 1 DVD remote

â‚¬ 190
$ 233
Â£ 125

This might be interesting for someone who wants to play Forza.

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 26 May 2005, 22:51

Plz translate into US currency

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 26 May 2005, 23:28

â‚¬ 190
$ 233
Â£ 125

A-spec · Post by **A-spec** » 27 May 2005, 01:18

boganbusman wrote:
mohsan1988 wrote:I also think that you shouldn't get an xbox just for Forza
Why not? I bought a PS2 just to get GT4

It's still the only PS2 game I own. It should be called a GT4station instead of a Playstsation

There are great games for the PS2 aswell. Like SpinterCell and Ace Combat

marshallpre1 · Post by **marshallpre1** » 27 May 2005, 01:54

i agree with bogan.. the only game i have for ps2 is GT4... i heard that forza is much better, but i dont really know how someone can say that driving is more realistic or what not, i mean how many of you have actually jumped in a race car or a sports car (not eclipses... i mean real sports cars)? well right now i love GT4 and i cant afford an xbox right now and the new consoles are gonna be coming out... well see.. im more of a pc kinda guy

Post by **TheStig** » 27 May 2005, 02:55

Me to I am also a PC guy but Forza and GT4 really apeal to me

the only reason for me NOT to buy a Xbox or PS2 (or both) is that the Xbox 360 and PS3 are not so far away....

if they have GT4 for the PS3 than I will rather wait

think I'll scout Ebay for a Xbox..

Cpt.Razkit · Post by **Cpt.Razkit** » 27 May 2005, 03:03

hey Stig wanna buy a mod chop Xbox for US $150?

it plays dvd-rws and all the other dvd copied cds. or how about a chipped ps2 for US $100?

does bascially the same thing the xbox does, oh yea the modchips for both of them play games from all over the world ie. japan, US... etc....

Forza is an awesome game, but its not better than gt4 hands down, there are better attributes, but gt4 prevails... IMO

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 27 May 2005, 13:34

$233 dollars that's crazy I could just go buy a new x-box at target with all the stuff except forza for $150 and then go buy forza for 50 only $200 dollars.

Or I could go buy one off of ebay :8):

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 27 May 2005, 14:38

Ello, those are Euro prices. Everything is overpriced in Europe.

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 27 May 2005, 14:49

I'm glad i don't live there than

Maverick2K4 · Post by **Maverick2K4** » 28 May 2005, 06:42

I don't know if anybody said this or not, but Forza does suck, not for what you guys are talking about though. During one of the first press conferences for Forza Motorsport, they tried to play the demo, but it gave the Xbox the BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH. Yeah, it was pretty funny. Even Microsoft's Xbox OS freezes up and crashes.