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Noob question, what are the sockets on motherboards

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 08:14
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ok, so on motherboards, they have different sockets, examples, socket A, socket 370, socket 478 socket 754 socket 775, socket 939, what do the different ones mean? s the max gigahertz they cn support or something?

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 08:36
by vellu
Different sockets for different CPU's. They are physically different (the number being the amount of pinholes on the socket and of course pins on the cpu chip) so if one has a socket 939 motherboard you also must get a socket 939 cpu; other cpu types will not fit.

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 08:59
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ok thanx, i am thinking of building a pc, and lookin at different parts, but i am giong to get a motherboard that comes with a processor anyway so i dont really have to worry about sockets, another question, do i have to buy heatsink for processor separate? because when i look at pictures of motherboard/processor package i dont see a heatsink but i see a HUGE one on my home one.
EDIT is the heatsink thingy just a cpu fan, like these?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... ?CatId=493&

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 09:25
by Sir Ibi
The top part is the fan, and the big chunk of metal underneath it is a heatsink. New CPUs usually come with their own fan and heatsink.

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 09:40
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ok, so if if got this motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 7V400-2500
and this fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... =S457-1051
would it work, if not, any linkys to good fans that would work?

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 09:56
by Sir Ibi
Doesn't the CPU come with a fan and heatsink? Maybe you can phone them up and ask them. The fan itself should be more then enough for your CPU

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 11:10
by NFSBLUECIVIC
it doest look like it, (correct me if im wrong) click top link

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 11:49
by The Gravedigger
wtf... hmm, I'll just leave this be

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 12:17
by boganbusman
The Gravedigger wrote:here is your answer :wink:
Did you recently join the n00b academy?

That's not the processor heatsink is it :roll:

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 15:59
by prince1142003
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 2&NoMapp=0

look at the bottom of the page.... Processor fan: Not included

that fan isn't bad. however, if you're going for cheapness, buy an ordinary heatsink+fan, it'll be much cheaper.

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 19:30
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ok thanks prince, so the fan/heatsink combo will work with this motherboard?

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 19:38
by prince1142003
i dont see why it shouldnt. it's a socket A heatsink, and you have a socket A processor.

just make sure you buy a power supply that has ample power to support it. it's got an LED, so it will use up more power than a regular fan. unless you're going to get a case that has a window, i wouldn't suggest an LED fan... what's the point in it?

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 19:40
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ample power? you mean just a good amount of power? will this one work?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... u=D15-1015
and about the heatsink/fan, i was using it as an example, i will search for a good one more thouroughly when i build my comp.

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 20:00
by prince1142003
depending on what else you'll put in your computer, i'd suggest going with at least 350W.

and, since you are building a computer, might i suggest NOT buying the parts over the internet? you can sometimes get better deals at actual stores. i saved $100 when i bought my motherboard and processor

Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 23:59
by NFSBLUECIVIC
i know what you mean, but most of the computer stores around where i live are ripp-off places that dont know much, but i will check around to make shure, should i ask any other questions about building a pc or what i need for it, in this thread, or in the computer help thread?

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 00:21
by prince1142003
if you have a fry's electronics nearby, you might want to hit that. i should warn you though, do your homework, and your research. they WILL try to hoodwink you. but fry's has the best deals on pretty much everything

you can post further questions in here, or in the computer help thread. i've never visited that thread, so i dont know if anyone there will be able to help you. but since it is a computer help thread, i seriously doubt that you wont get help.

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 00:44
by NFSBLUECIVIC
ive never heard of that store, thaanx for the info tho, anyone have any good online sites or actual stores they recomend?

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 06:40
by donaldgladden
NFSBLUECIVIC wrote:ok, so if if got this motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 7V400-2500
and this fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... =S457-1051
would it work, if not, any linkys to good fans that would work?

you better get a nice CPU fan or and not use a old one. i tried using my old celeron cpu fan on my ASUS deluxe baord and the CPU was so weak compared to the Board that it overheated to 101 degrees in a instant. i say you get a better CPU that would match the board's performance.

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 06:45
by Sir Ibi
But the FAN he's looking at supports the CPU that he wants to buy, so whats the big deal. If it fails then its the retailers fault. The board itself should have either heatsink or fan attached to vital parts of the mobo if it needs it.

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 06:50
by donaldgladden
some fans arent powerful enough to cool the cpu down like mine did. but thats just me :lol:

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 06:54
by Sir Ibi
maybe you forgot to plug it in :lol: I did that once when I was building my very first PC... I spent a good two hours thinking why my PC won't boot up, I almost smashed my mobo in frustration :lol:

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 07:08
by NFSBLUECIVIC
Sir Ibi wrote:But the FAN he's looking at supports the CPU that he wants to buy, so whats the big deal. If it fails then its the retailers fault. The board itself should have either heatsink or fan attached to vital parts of the mobo if it needs it.
i didnt see it say anywhere about havng a fan with the motherbord, but i may be wrong.

Nother question, anyone have a link to or knows the basic/required parts to build a computer? hows this
case with power supply
motherboard and cpu-----cpu fan and heatsink (if not included)
dvd/cd drive
hard drive
ram
graphic card
sound card
network card (if needed)
mouse keyboard and monitor (speakers optional)
what else? o yea and do i need to buy any wires/cables that arent included, like power cables and the ribbin ones that connect to your hard drive and disk(s\) drives.
im no pro, so please correct me if im wrong.
Also do i need screws for parts or do they come with them?

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 07:30
by Sir Ibi
If the motherboard needs a fan or some sort of cooling, it will come with it attached on the motherboard. You don't have to worry about that.

Screwes, cables and all the bits and bob will come with the parts themselves, if you are buying new products at least. You should have some tools ready tho, like small screwdrivers and some sort of lid where you can put the screws so you don't lose them, trust me, you will be grateful ...

* When building your PC make sure you have plenty of space away from anything that will produce static electricty, i.e. carpet is a BIG NO NO....
* Most of your products should come in a anti-static bag, make sure you alwasy keep them inside it.
* Before you handle the circuit boards, be sure to remove static from your body. You can do this by touching a piece of earth, like the inside of the case, or buy an anti-static wrist band.
* Handle your products, such as sound/graphics card. CPU and motherboard by the edge, avoid touching the pins and the circuits.
* Read the manuals of your product before you dive in

And finally, good luck :D

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 07:43
by NFSBLUECIVIC
thank you very much sir ibi, greatly appreciated, btw have you ever built a pc? i wont be building one for about a month or half a month, well just as soon as i can get enought money for all the parts, ill probobly buy the motherboard/cpu combo, case, cooling, and ram first.
hey hows this case look eh?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... u=D15-1015

Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 07:47
by Sir Ibi
no probs, but I suggest you do some research on the net about building PC. There's plenty of good advice out there. Just pop down somat in google. And yes I have built PCs before (three altogether :lol: ) Oh and I've almost forgot you'll need to get yourself a copy of an OS - like Windows XP, which you'll have to buy together with a piece of hardware (that's Microsoft's conditions).