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Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 04 Jul 2008, 19:50
by Skyline_man
Carcrazy wrote:Theoretically, couldn't you do a complete fresh install of the PS3 OS, seeing how you can install any other OS you want on it?
I think you can restore factory settings, havent tried it though.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 14:04
by Stereo
I'm going to get a PS3 soon, but I don't have a widescreen monitor in my room and the 52" in the living room is constantly being watched by my mom and she gets all pissy if she wants to watch while its being used by someone else. So... I have a 19" 4:3 Dell, but I want to get something widescreen. I decided to leave my PC as is because a graphics card costs more than a PS3 and the PC can still lag and the PS3 most likely wont. I was thinking whether I should get a widescreen 22/24" monitor and use that for both the PC and PS3, or whether I should get a seperate HDTV/monitor for my PS3. Half my room is empty so I wanna fill it with something (like... a TV. :D ) Plus, if a friend comes over and wants to play the PS3, I would have to stop using the comp if I got a monitor... hmm

Which one?

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 15:46
by S2000_Skyline12
A console can lag...I see it all the time when my friend and I play GTA4 :/

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 15:59
by baumaxx1
Stereo wrote:I'm going to get a PS3 soon, but I don't have a widescreen monitor in my room and the 52" in the living room is constantly being watched by my mom and she gets all pissy if she wants to watch while its being used by someone else. So... I have a 19" 4:3 Dell, but I want to get something widescreen. I decided to leave my PC as is because a graphics card costs more than a PS3 and the PC can still lag and the PS3 most likely wont. I was thinking whether I should get a widescreen 22/24" monitor and use that for both the PC and PS3, or whether I should get a seperate HDTV/monitor for my PS3. Half my room is empty so I wanna fill it with something (like... a TV. :D ) Plus, if a friend comes over and wants to play the PS3, I would have to stop using the comp if I got a monitor... hmm

Which one?
Budget? I'd go for your own TV... easier... but dunno, I do have the fortune of using it on my 52" Pioneer plasma at home, lol. But you can get decent TVs nowdays fairly cheap.

About PS3 lag, it can be the occasional stutter, but it will always be playable.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 10 Jul 2008, 18:09
by S2000_Skyline12
Lol, they don't stutter, they lag rofl or the nice way for console users to put it "slowdown time" xD

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 02:24
by baumaxx1
S2000_Skyline12 wrote:Lol, they don't stutter, they lag rofl or the nice way for console users to put it "slowdown time" xD
Huh? What game? I have COD4, Ratchet and Clank and Grid and they've been smooth as so far... but then mine is really well ventilated.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 02:54
by S2000_Skyline12
Played GRiD, got slowdown, played DiRT, got it too, IV, same thing.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 03:15
by Skyline_man
Well, it all depends on how good the game is optimized for the system, i tried some games where it was really smooth, and some other games, even demos that had significant slowdowns.

I Only encounter slowdowns in GTA IV when there are couple of explosions on the screen, other than that...no problems at all.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 03:25
by Stereo
My dad suggested I get a widescreen monitor and I can either keep my old one and have the old one for the PC or just get a new monitor and sell the old one. I think I'll go with the first one because I really don't feel like having to raise the resolution on my PC for the highest resolution (I had a 1280x1024)

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 03:32
by S2000_Skyline12
A card costs more than a console? rofl, you can get a 4850 for like 160-200 range lol, same for the 88GT

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 03:42
by Stereo
I'm talking about high-end cards... (9800GTX, GTX 280, etc)

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 03:53
by S2000_Skyline12
A 4850 outperforms a 98GTX.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 04:17
by Stereo
OK, you have a point, but add the CPU, mobo, RAM, etc all together and you get somehthing for like 1500 dollars... All I really need from my comp is decent graphics to play PC only games like STALKER, and to edit videos/make stuff. My laptop is for school use and photo editing.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 04:48
by S2000_Skyline12
E8400-$200 (175 some places)
2GB DDR2- $65
HD4850- $200
Mobo- $125
Case- $70
PSU- $80
HDD- $60

Total- $800 bucks

That is a system that would hold you over for a while, play STALKER and do all that other stuff.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 18:02
by Stereo
OK you definetly don't get my point. I already have a system that's good enough for STALKER and other games. I meant a system that could handle Crysis smoothly on high settings and do other graphics-intensive games. I mentioned HIGH END... Not medium like the list you gave me. Read it over if you like and try to get it right... The PS3 costs $400 and a high-end PC costs $1500-$4000. I already have a good enough PC and I don't feel like upgrading it. I'll use my PC for PC-only games and productivity. The PS3 will be for gaming. I don't know how else to put it for you.

And anyways, I think I was talking about getting a monitor, not comparing PC and PS3 prices...

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 11 Jul 2008, 20:18
by S2000_Skyline12
Oh, a E8400 not high end? Funny, cause I think it spanks the Q6600 in gaming performance. And if Tri-SLi 88Ultras can't get 60 smooth frames, what makes you think you'll buy something that won't actually cost that much? Cause, really, you're just trying to throw out stuff that costs 1500 when you don't even need something like that. You don't have to put it to me in any way btw. You're saying you need some 1500 buck PC to play games, when you really don't. And honestly, By the time Crysis Warhead (which is said by Crytek to run high, smoothly on a 600 buck PC), Crysis won't really be much a factor as a game.

And I don't see how a 4850 is mainstream. 9800GTX vs 4850. GTX is high end and 4850 beats it. Explain that to me and i'll leave it alone.

E8400>Q6600 in gaming performance and Q6600 is high end, medium? I don't think so.

2GB is sufficient nowadays but you can find 4GB kits for 80 bucks.

and a good mobo would cost around 125-150 unless your talking 780i/FTWs.

So please don't say you need some $1500 buck, stoked up PC to get a good gaming/PC using experience, cause it's far from true.

Hell, this list beats what you currently have, so if this is medium, then what you have now must be low.

Oh well, since I guess you don't get the point, get your monitor and your PS3. You still probably won't get that you don't need a $1500 machine to play games smoothly.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 01:35
by PSZeTa
S2000_Skyline12 wrote:And I don't see how a 4850 is mainstream. 9800GTX vs 4850. GTX is high end and 4850 beats it. Explain that to me and i'll leave it alone.
It was high end, it's now considered midrange.

Anyways, looks like we're having some troubles to find the difference between a high-end and a high-price PC. ](*,) A 4850 could be considered high end for the performance it delivers, but there's still something better out there (with a worse price, but okay).

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 02:40
by S2000_Skyline12
Yeah, true, but i'm just saying you don't need to spend 200-300 bucks on something high-end like a 9800GTX when you can get something that costs less and has high end performance. I can tell the difference between the two, mainly cause i'm cheap and like bang for the buck lol, but that system that I listed could be considered high end, give the peformance, and not have to cost as much either :)

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 12 Jul 2008, 13:08
by Skyline_man
Great, 10 off topic posts !!

you know this is not the computer help thread, stick to the topic please...off topic posts will be deleted from now on.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 16:16
by Stereo
So I got my 24" 1920x1200 monitor, but my games aren't using 1080p. My monitor has an HDMI input and that's what I'm using. The XMB menu and Blu-Ray discs are using 1080p, but the games aren't. The thing is, on the same PS3, the 52" 1080p TV displayed the games in full 1080p (CoD4 and Grid Demo)... Why isn't my monitor displaying it correctly. I have the two bars at the bottom and top of the screen so it's 16:9, and the XMB looks crisp and clear. CoD4 and every other game I have aren't. I've tried turning off 720p, but that only makes the PS3 downscale games to 480p, so I turned that back on. My checked settings are: 480p(grayed), 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Why would it display games correctly on my TV, but not on my monitor? They have the same exact pixel width, and the monitor doesn't stretch the image vertically.

Any answers?

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 30 Jul 2008, 22:56
by Skyline_man
Stereo wrote:So I got my 24" 1920x1200 monitor, but my games aren't using 1080p. My monitor has an HDMI input and that's what I'm using. The XMB menu and Blu-Ray discs are using 1080p, but the games aren't. The thing is, on the same PS3, the 52" 1080p TV displayed the games in full 1080p (CoD4 and Grid Demo)... Why isn't my monitor displaying it correctly. I have the two bars at the bottom and top of the screen so it's 16:9, and the XMB looks crisp and clear. CoD4 and every other game I have aren't. I've tried turning off 720p, but that only makes the PS3 downscale games to 480p, so I turned that back on. My checked settings are: 480p(grayed), 720p, 1080i, 1080p. Why would it display games correctly on my TV, but not on my monitor? They have the same exact pixel width, and the monitor doesn't stretch the image vertically.

Any answers?
Try unchecking every resolution except the 1080p one ( and the grayed one of course).

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 00:29
by Koenigsegg_Rox
Ahem, note that the example you used was CoD4, CoD4, being a multi-plat game is 720p max, no 1080p. If you want 1080p games you gotta look around for the PS3 exclusives. Virtua Tennis 3, Ridge Racer 7, Metal Gear Solid 4 and the like.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 02:23
by Stereo
I know the GRID demo was 1080p on my living room TV. And if I uncheck everything except 1080p and 480p, then it downscales to 480p...

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 06:38
by Koenigsegg_Rox
Then again where does it say it's 1080p? Almost all multi-plat PS3 games are 720p.

Re: The Playstation 3 Thread

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 01:05
by Stereo
Well I know that GRID was 1080p cause the text was crystal clear on the TV but, it's jagged and has big pixels on the monitor.