The New/Prototype/Concept Car Topic

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 30 Dec 2006, 06:30

yes ! thats the car it reminds me of .......... the lotus elise

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 30 Dec 2006, 18:37

korge wrote:Nice car, but those photos look weird, almost like a photoshop chop...

That's cos it's a photoshopped Cayman.

darknight788 wrote:the 8L is for torque it has almost 100 ft lbs. more than the z06, the powerband for this thing is going to be huge. we'll see what gets done to the suspension but it is starting to sound like it is going to have a nice suspension and good handling

American car, V8 and Huge powerband is a contradiction, I doubt it will exceed 6000RPM. I'm assuming you meant 1000lb ft, rather than 100.
It's STILL ugly as sin, STILL doesn't handle, and STILL weighs as much as a small house. Gimme 4 M5's anyday.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 30 Dec 2006, 19:52

no.. i meant it almost has 100 ft lbs more torque than the z06
z06 - 470 ft lbs viper - 560 ft lbs
torque is what moves you and this viper is going to have a lot of movement. throw in the rumored competition suspension like the one used in the 24 hr lemans and it will be awesome. also its not a v8 ......... its a v10

and why does something that is over 500 cubic inches need to go over 6000 rpm ? thats extremely fast for something that size. weighs as much as a small house ? the 06 convertible weighed 200 pounds more than the z06

i think alot of european cars are ugly as hell also... how would you know that it doesnt handle ? by playing video games ? i have driven one in real life and they handle pretty damn good. i bet a stock viper would beat a stock m5 anyday

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 30 Dec 2006, 20:38

darknight788 wrote:no.. i meant it almost has 100 ft lbs more torque than the z06
z06 - 470 ft lbs viper - 560 ft lbs
torque is what moves you and this viper is going to have a lot of movement. throw in the rumored competition suspension like the one used in the 24 hr lemans and it will be awesome. also its not a v8 ......... its a v10 and why does something that is over 500 cubic inches need to go over 6000 rpm ? thats extremely fast for something that size. weighs as much as a small house ? the 06 convertible weighed 200 pounds more than the z06 i think alot of european cars are ugle as hell also... how would you know that it doesnt handle ? by playing video games ? i have driven one in real life and they handle pretty damn good. i bet a stock viper would beat a stock m5 anyday

I'm not going back onto the whole torque debate. Put it this way. Cars only need enormous ammounts of torque if they have alot of weight to shift. Look at F1 cars- high HP, low torque.
Corvette Z06's weigh alot as standard.
Rev's are good, they give you a wider power distribution and make the car seem less lazy and more controlable.
Competition suspention = car completely useless on the road. V2 coilovers on the M3 make it hard enough to drive, so I don't want to think what le mans suspention would be like.
The viper looks exactly the same as every viper before. Plus it makes a very ungainly chop top.
I've never driven a viper, but I had no trouble dispatching one on the last track day I went on. I'd imagine they'd handle much the same as an E-type Jag- huge engine in the front, no weight over the rear axels, too much torque= very skittish car that instantly goes from understeer to oversteer on the limit, spins alot and is hard to keep under control, spins tyres at the tiniest blip of the throttle (may look cool but slows you down like hell) and that enormously heavy engine in the nose is going to make braking a nightmare too.
This Vip is running against the 911 Turbo in speed and power stakes. It may be faster 0-60, but the TT 3.6 is liable to be much faster up to 120, 150+ and goes on to a higher top speed. It looks better, is better built, more controlable and doubtlessly faster around a track. Also an easier car to live with in the real world, as unlike the viper, it isn't enormously heavy, slugish and hard to control around town, impossible to park, difficult to see out of, noisy, uneconomical, ungainly and gargantuan.
Gimme a 911 Turbo or GT3 anyday. I don't care about 1/4ml figures, or 0-60. The moment you hit a corner the Porsche would run away, and be uncatchable.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 30 Dec 2006, 21:00

just so you know the viper has benchmark braking. 60-0 is in under 100 ft. it doesnt need the enormous amount of torque it just has it they actually need some weight to keep the thing under control. the whole speed thing against the 911 TT 150 mph + is a whole nother story but it will be interesting. i have no doubt the 911 would take the viper on a track with lots of turns
BTW - cool video nvm the title there is no viper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt22cIPYuMk

Fishwhiz · Post by **Fishwhiz** » 01 Jan 2007, 18:48

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/12/31/ ... r-concept/

i think the ford looks really ugly and weird. it is "supposably" suppose to be just like the chrysler 300c.

Carcrazy · Post by **Carcrazy** » 01 Jan 2007, 18:51

I think the front of the ferrari looks like an Elise.

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 01 Jan 2007, 19:08

well i think ford is trying to save themselves by having new looks on cars and probably some new engine

taz947 · Post by **taz947** » 01 Jan 2007, 19:34

hey look what i Found searching the internet:

I think this couldn't be chopped

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 01 Jan 2007, 19:35

that thing is ugly as sin.the 300c was a isntat hit everybody saw it, this thing is just plain ugly

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 01 Jan 2007, 20:34

One word for that BMW: ewwwww. They ruined whatever car that is.

T-Shine · Post by **T-Shine** » 01 Jan 2007, 21:55

korge wrote:Nice car, but those photos look weird, almost like a photoshop chop...

Like Steelsnake wrote, the pictures are indeed computer generated. But personally I find the news about a new Dino very exciting!

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 01 Jan 2007, 22:07

Tuners Rock wrote:One word for that BMW: ewwwww. They ruined whatever car that is.

It's a render I believe.

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 10 Jan 2007, 06:50

I don't know if this been posted or not
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp ... le_id=4451

viper16 · Post by **viper16** » 11 Jan 2007, 02:32

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Silvia S16

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Dodge ASC Diamondback Viper

Grez~Supra_RZ-S · Post by **Grez~Supra_RZ-S** » 11 Jan 2007, 02:44

That S16 is a fake, based on a Nissan Primera.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 11 Jan 2007, 07:38

yea and it has only 280 ps. pff station wagons have more

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 13 Jan 2007, 09:51

That ASC Daimond Back Viper is old, it was showcased Like 6 months ago

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 13 Jan 2007, 11:47

darknight788 wrote:yea and it has only 280 ps. pff station wagons have more

...And?
An Ariel Atom "only" has 300bhp, but it still does 0-60 in 3 seconds on road tyres, and will beat an SL65 AMG on a1/4ml.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 13 Jan 2007, 22:06

it also weighs as much as a feather which allows for better felxibility in gearing, but it is also not road legal and if you get in a accident with a geo metro you will become one with the car

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 13 Jan 2007, 22:33

darknight788 wrote:it also weighs as much as a feather which allows for better felxibility in gearing, but it is also not road legal and if you get in a accident with a geo metro you will become one with the car

Actually they are road legal.
Plus they are made out of reinforced aluminium poles, much the same was as rollcaged are. They're probably rather hard to break.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 13 Jan 2007, 22:35

maybe they are road legal in europe, i doubt it over here tho how much do they weigh ?

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 10 Feb 2007, 01:06

steelsnake00 wrote:
Tuners Rock wrote:One word for that BMW: ewwwww. They ruined whatever car that is.
It's a render I believe.

yeah, i guess, so, i just dont like it, check out this Mustang, http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/concept-ca ... 217564.php

race_invader · Post by **race_invader** » 10 Feb 2007, 03:11

Tuners Rock wrote:yeah, i guess, so, i just dont like it, check out this Mustang, http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/concept-ca ... 217564.php

the rear lights on the mustang makes the rear end look sad

SliM_880 · Post by **SliM_880** » 21 Feb 2007, 09:20

2007 Maserati GranTurismo

i think it looks sweeet

More Info:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2 ... urismo.htm