Need help during grip races. Any Tips???

[Striker94]

I consistently screw up my grip races. My Infinity's fast, but shocking handling slows me down, and 240SX (S13) corners well but has not enough speed.

How do YOU corner? handbrake late and slide past the turn, or genly ease the car into the turn???

[Summ]

Handbrake?! What are you, nuts?! Heh.. no wonder you have handling problems! The car's not the issue. Your driving is. Learn to drive.

Ok, so pointers..
- Brake with your normal brake. If you have a progressive controller, like a brake pedal, don't step on it, brake lightly, as kicking the brake in will cause the wheels to lock and your car will just keep on sliding in a straight line and plunge into the dirt.
- Combine braking with engine braking. Assuming you use manual shifting, gear down in good time, before you start braking, and take your foot off the gas.. give your engine time to adjust the revs for you. The best technique to combine braking with engine braking is to gear down, give a pump on the brake, gear down, give a pump on the brake..
- Brake BEFORE the turn! You should have shaved off all the speed necessary to be able to take the turn before you start to turn in. Braking while turning is a bad idea, as it easily translates into loss of grip and possible spinout. That said, if you did not shave enough speed before entering the curve, better to risk it and brake while turning than to understeer into a wall or into the dirt. Pro Street is a very forgiving game, when it comes to braking in corners, but might as well learn not to do it, so you can bring that knowledge with you into real life situations as well.
- You need to feel the turn, while going through it. This means listening for the tires fighting for traction, sensing where the car's balance goes and watching the line you keep. Taking a turn is about exploring the very limits of grip with your car by negotiating speed and traction. A rule of thumb is only to accelerate slightly through the turn and only, when you are sure the turn allows for it. A normal curve goes like this.. brake on the straight. Turn in to the apex with inertia alone (foot off the gas) and accelerate out of the turn progressively, as the curve opens up before you. Ease into it, speed out of it.

Hope you got something out of all that.. and I hope it helps.

[MitziBark]

Also i would add that going through corners at medium speed without much drama is often faster than kamikaze late hard breaking and fishtailing hard acceleration. Most times smooth is faster.

[Suuby-Roo]

or if you want to go automatic get a WRX STI and when the best line arrows turn red simply let off the gas until the arrows turn green again and you can win every race with ease

[Summ]

Suuby... frankly I'm tiring of seeing your blatant fanboyism spattered on every single topic! Much as you'd like it to be, GETTING A WRX IS NOT THE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM! So shut it already! Everyone got it, that you like that car! Enough!

As for simply letting the foot off the gas when the arrows turn red, unless you're playing in noob mode, where all the braking is done for you, which I suspect is what Suuby plays, it will land you in the dirt! You try getting to a hairpin at 200 km/h and letting off the gas 50 m before.. ridiculous!

MitziBark said it right. Only thing I can add to that is that taking corners is what makes all the difference, in this as well as in any other driving situation/game. The fastest times are not posted by the guys with the biggest engines. They are posted by the guys, who've learned the art of negotiating a turn! Taking turns the best possible way is all the skill there is to racing. Even an infant can jam the throttle and step on the brakes.. or pull the gear levers, when the engine starts to top out... All the skill in driving is in taking turns. Turns are where you win or lose. Once you've learned to pay attention to the correct path through a turn, the finesse of gears and speeds vs grip comes in, where the best results are not only the ones that have you following the correct path.. they also want you to have as little tire screeching as possible. For one, tires screeching means they're not gripping right, which means a lot of the power from the engine is not being put down on the road and your wheels are spinning more than they are pulling = waste of gas and increased tire wearing. The less tire screeching, the faster you'll go through the turn.

[TheStig]

Summ is right,

And do use the arrows, they are really helpfull to get the best line in a corner.

[Striker94]

Thanks guys, but now i've got a evo IX and a skyline R34 so i'mjust about set for the finish.
I've just beaten React.

The EVO works like a dream, and the skyline helps in straighter courses

And I dont ever use handbrake anymore, cept in drft

Anyway, thanks a lot!!!

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

Don't overpower the Skyline otherwise you'll wheelspin the whole race and won't get anywhere fast. A simple tip, just use the turn indicators and best racing line. Although I can definitely recommend a good car: 911 Turbo.

[Striker94]

How do you get enough money to buy a porsche, let alone a Turbo?

I can barely scrape together enough to get a Skyline Proto!

Any money-earning tips???

[Andreaz1]

4wd cars is very good for grip races..
Money is always a problem, I just try to win some races and I get much cash fast

[Summ]

4wd cars suck in grip. They are understeer hell as soon as you slap on some stage 3 parts. That being said, what I always do in any game to spare some cash is to just jump the gun. When you simply can't follow with the others anymore, upgrade directly to stage 3. Skip the stages in between. Aside from that, spend your money wisely. Buy the upgrades that matter the most first - engine, turbo for grip, as it makes your car go faster, and if you are a decent driver, you can still race it without needing the handling upgrades so badly. This way you can start winning and making some money off your new upgrades. Other than that, cash comes in an exponential progression in this game. The further into it you are, the more money you win per race and event. Just be patient. Eventually you'll be floating in money.

[Andreaz1]

4wd cars suck in grip. They are understeer hell as soon as you slap on some stage 3 parts. That being said, what I always do in any game to spare some cash is to just jump the gun. When you simply can't follow with the others anymore, upgrade directly to stage 3. Skip the stages in between. Aside from that, spend your money wisely. Buy the upgrades that matter the most first - engine, turbo for grip, as it makes your car go faster, and if you are a decent driver, you can still race it without needing the handling upgrades so badly. This way you can start winning and making some money off your new upgrades. Other than that, cash comes in an exponential progression in this game. The further into it you are, the more money you win per race and event. Just be patient. Eventually you'll be floating in money.

What car do you have?

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

Actually, just read that Striker94 bought the Evo...

Good choice, my friend. You can chuck all the parts you want in it, and you'll be getting nice, controlled drifts through any corner. If you want money fast, take that Evo and break as many track records as you can, then take it to G-Effect and rip it up there

Also, this may not work but it did for me, on the third G-Effect day, when you win or dominate, pick the very last marker, there hopefully should be a Free Car Marker for your Porsche .

If all goes well, you should be able to easily beat Ray Krieger, and feed all that money into 911 upgrades...

Although, whatever you do don't get the GT2. Sure, it's more powerful, but the 911 Turbo is more easily controlled, has sublime handling and probably goes faster anyway. So, that's grip pretty much sorted!!

[Striker94]

I was kinda hoping to get a pagani zonda F with the marker, so which one's better???

[Striker94]

Also, if u do get a stage 4 part, can u put it on other cars?

Coz I havn't got 1 yet and i'm just wondering...

P.S-so what car do you think is THE best (not considering price)

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

Seriously mate, there's no use trying to find every stage 4 part with the markers, it's too hard and the chances are 1000 to 1. You're better off using UNLOCKALLTHINGS. I know, it's cheating, but its the only real way to get ALL the stage 4 parts. As for the best Grip car, since you can take a backup car, use the SRT10 or R34 for easy, straights and gentle bend courses, and use the 911 Turbo or R35 GTR for the really twisty/tight courses like Mondello Park, Infineon, etc. Really its something I need to sort of think about too...

There isn't really any way to separate the 911 and the R35, so I'd simply have to say... go with the cheaper option, in this case, the R35. As for a Viper/R34, you can choose from either of those as speed cars in the Super Promotion Challenge Day if you dominate it.

[Summ]

What car do you have?

RX-8, which is by far the best compromise between handling and speed in the game. Price, too, of course. You don't drift through corners with an RX-8. Drifting is not desireable in grip. Read my two posts at the beginning. Get a car that has a solid handling and doesn't drift. You'll lose time and control by drifting.

[Striker94]

I'm afraid that i disagree with you, Summ. Drifting in an Evo around corners (not purposefully) works well if you know how to control it.

Note: I have all stage 3 parts on all my cars except drift. I'm considering getting a new car, since i've made it to superpromotion and have stacks of money.

How do you dominate the race day before ray kreiger, the one with Rudy Chen's 911?

P.S Does Unlockallthings work on PS2?

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

-Rudy Chen is hard to beat no matter what, the only way I can think of is the old saying, if you can't beat them, join them!! If you still don't have enough money for that shiny Porsche, then get the overall next best thing. I'll let you work that one out for yourself.

-Stage 4 parts are exclusive to one car only; when you unlock them, it generally says which car the package fits to.

-DO NOT use the Zonda for Grip if you have Stage 4 parts; it's worthless if it can't accelerate fast enough, in which it can't.

[Striker94]

yeah, i really want the Porsche. I thought that you didn't need to dominte, only win to get to Ray Kreiger but i was sadly mistaken.

Seems like I have a better chance now in my fully upgraded and better-tuned Evo.

And are you suggesting the Skyline R35, or another porsche??????

[VG_Speed]

Hi!

The 911 Turbo is the best Car for Grip and Speed, Career Wise vs Speed Wise vs Driving Difficulty vs Points.
In Grip, on some tracks, only Zonda seems to be faster. In Speed, the LP640 can beat the 911 Turbo by a few tenth of second in Autobahnring Tracks, but Ebisu and Nevada are 911 Turbo. Maybe Ebisu the McLaren F1 can dominate, dont know... It depends on how this supercar handles the jumps.

So sell all Grip and Speed Cars you have and buy two 911 Turbos! ;P

I dont understand Koenigsegg_Rox comment about the Zonda. Zonda is the fastest Grip Car in the game, if we dont count CCX and McLaren F1 (bonus cars that, officially, are still not out). You can check some of my videos in Zonda (also have one in McLaren F1! ) over Willow Springs, Autopolis or Autobahn (all GP Circuits). Its best if you download the Filefront versions, since YouTube has some problems to deal with the speed of the car vs video compression, resulting in poor quality.

Cya!

Rogério

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=VGSpeedPro
http://hosted.filefront.com/VGSpeedPro

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

yeah, i really want the Porsche. I thought that you didn't need to dominte, only win to get to Ray Kreiger but i was sadly mistaken.

Seems like I have a better chance now in my fully upgraded and better-tuned Evo.

And are you suggesting the Skyline R35, or another porsche??????

Well I seriously believe that the 911 Turbo is the main competition for the Zonda, but in the Zonda no matter which mode its in can't get the power down.

If you can't afford the Turbo, then your next best option is probably any other sort of 4WD. Personal fave for me is the GTR Proto.

[Striker94]

ok, this might sound odd, and might be a bit off the subject, but just say you got a free car marker, couldn't you just get a Pagani Zonda with it?

But if you didn't like it, you could just sell it for, lets say a porsche 911 turbo. You'd have more than enough money for the actual car and most of the performance parts!

My point is that no matter what car you prefer, if you get a free car marker you should get the Zonda

Anyone get what i mean?

[Koenigsegg_Rox]

Good Point.

[Striker94]

-Rudy Chen is hard to beat no matter what, the only way I can think of is the old saying, if you can't beat them, join them!! If you still don't have enough money for that shiny Porsche, then get the overall next best thing. I'll let you work that one out for yourself.

-Stage 4 parts are exclusive to one car only; when you unlock them, it generally says which car the package fits to.

-DO NOT use the Zonda for Grip if you have Stage 4 parts; it's worthless if it can't accelerate fast enough, in which it can't.

Last time, when I almost dominated, and then my brother trashed my memory card, this is how I (almost) beat Rudy Chen.

At the start of the grip races (not time attack or sector shootout), I start ahead of him, in third. I then proceeded with my Evo X. I get a good launch, and as soon as he begins to overtake me, I just rammed his rear right quarterpanels, and he starts spinning out. I then continue doing this until the first haipin, where he's unable to turn, because of the angle i've created of him. He (I think) handbrakes, but is unable to turn in time. From there I take the lead, and then it's just a matter of frequently looking at the rear view mirror and blocking him.

Although some may call that cheating, for me it's the only way of winning a race. But the time attacks he OWNS me, winning by about 2 seconds each lap.

Strangely enough, I seem to be able to beat him in every sector shootout!!!