Rock or Rap

macdaddy · Post by **macdaddy** » 30 Mar 2005, 08:31

rock? what sort? punk? pop-punk? emo? hardcore? metal? classic rock ? modern rock? Alternative? Indie? Nu-metal ? Jazz? Industrial?
This is quite limiting

P.S Don't make me list every sort of Metal. It takes too long
P.P.S Linkin Park & Slipknot ARE NOT METAL.

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 30 Mar 2005, 08:50

Slipknot is new age METAL so it's still metal

Dragster · Post by **Dragster** » 30 Mar 2005, 09:23

DoR, I hope you weren't serious when you said that rap is crap. I can say the same thing for rock, because from what I have heard, rock is all in banging people's ears and getting them into some unknown states of conscience... But I won't say that rock is clock (:D) because I don't know what it offers, and I don't want to know, kthx?

909 · Post by **909** » 30 Mar 2005, 09:24

EmptyWords wrote:heres every rap song out in the mainstreams lyrics. i cna sum it up in a few words

nigga
booboo
blast
bling
gansta
yo

u forgot "Mother F***" and all the 'mothaff' and 'mofo' variations...

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 30 Mar 2005, 13:01

Dragster wrote:DoR, I hope you weren't serious when you said that rap is crap. I can say the same thing for rock, because from what I have heard, rock is all in banging people's ears and getting them into some unknown states of conscience... But I won't say that rock is clock (:D) because I don't know what it offers, and I don't want to know, kthx?

No rap is not crap in the mening off the word but i think it's crap because off the thing they sing (booboo nigga hoo and so on) i just bought the newest cd of eminem and Dr.Dre they have some anti bush and war songs i like.

Dragster · Post by **Dragster** » 31 Mar 2005, 21:46

Well you should know that there are two kind of rap songs, one kind has words, the other kind has beat. First kind --> 2Pac, Second kind --> SnoopDogg

macdaddy · Post by **macdaddy** » 01 Apr 2005, 13:29

Dragon-of-Rune wrote:Slipknot is new age METAL so it's still metal

metal has solos and musical talent. Slipknot have an average drummer and gay masks. If you think they are "scary" listen to REAL Metal like Dimmu Borgir.

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 01 Apr 2005, 13:34

First off all dimmu borgir music is dark metal not new age (sounds almost like death metal) And i am a slipknot fan and if you say that to fans on a concert you won't life the day to regret it(it's not a threat but based on real facts on stuff that happens on there concerts). But if you buy a music magazine slipknot is in the new age metal section ( oh and by the way slipknot has solo's in there songs so better look things up before telling stuff) And rock is on top off the poll with 19 vote's against 17

ViperGT · Post by **ViperGT** » 02 Apr 2005, 01:43

Rock Rocks especially if it's heavy metal

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 02 Apr 2005, 03:01

i hate all these kids that go to my school. they think theyre all cool by putting on chains and shiznit. it really pisses me off. and then it just really kills me when they assume i listen to slipknot or marylin manson. id never listen to those shiznit bands. they dont contain much talent. they have like 9 memebers?? theres bands that have 3 people and sound 8 times better. its hard to explain i guess. it just really pisses me offf that all these kids dress like a bunch of idiots. put chains on and color their hair. appearance doesnt matter much to me. but you can tell alot from it. i think its all about the music. but id say almost all underground shiznit is better than anything mainstream. this girl i know models for this website. http://www.firetruck.com shes the one with the colorful hair. heh. shes into shiznit music. shes good looking and all, but i think she tries to be this all mysterious goth person. its pathetic. and it also pisses me off how everyone thinks that rock is "satans music" or more to say metal. its more this new wave shiznit. but alot of the bands that arent so mainstream have good music and great lyrics. i hope i make sense. i can clarify some points if you dont understand it

StoneBullet · Post by **StoneBullet** » 03 Apr 2005, 00:58

It seems to me that people want to join a "club". That's why they all listen to the same sh**y music and all wear the same clothes. I mean come on guys - be yourselves.

I really think the R&B/Rap scene has become commercial and stale. It's just boring now. It all sounds the same to me. Yeah, maybe it's just my age but it's still stupid, borind commercial nonsense.

Having said that though, rock went through much the same phase a few years ago, and seemed to burn itself out. Maybe it was all that spandex..:lol. I think it's time the so called urbun music got a "kick up the bumbum", so to speak. It's just crying out for a new artist to come along and change it all. Otherwise it's in danger of going the same way....

EDIT: That's just my opinion BTW. No offence to anyone here....

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 03 Apr 2005, 01:34

You've hit the nail right slap bang on the head there Stonebullet. You gotta listen to rappers like De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, now thats what i'm talking about....

StoneBullet · Post by **StoneBullet** » 03 Apr 2005, 01:36

Sir Ibi wrote:You've hit the nail right slap bang on the head there Stonebullet. You gotta listen to rappers like De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, now thats what i'm talking about....

I used to listen to those guys at the time, but somewhere along the way I just got bored with the whole scene.... It seems to me that it's all about money and image. Sort of "I'm better than you" lyrics. Now how can I put this GROW UP!

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 03 Apr 2005, 01:45

Well, to be honest De La Soul are not really known for rapping about money and image, in fact they were the "controversial group" that didn't. Yeah they are a really old group, but their style of hip hop is so different from the commercial shiznit you get nowadays.

StoneBullet · Post by **StoneBullet** » 03 Apr 2005, 01:46

Yeah, I meant since then......

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 03 Apr 2005, 01:47

ye, thats true. Dam i can't stand "half a dollar", or is it 50 cent...

DrewBoi · Post by **DrewBoi** » 03 Apr 2005, 04:58

honestly you cant compare hip-hop/rap and rock because they are soooo different from each other. i dont really like people who act goth or the Juggalos or juggalettes....

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 04 Apr 2005, 10:55

I listen to rock and all that kind of music but you can't see it on me because i dress the way i want not to what music i am listening to.

macdaddy · Post by **macdaddy** » 04 Apr 2005, 13:34

new age metal, nu-metal, face facts. I know that slipknot has some technical songs, but really, why do they need 10 members, while more technical bands with half or less that number manage to sound better? And try to tell a real metal fan that DJ's are metal.

ghost_4ce · Post by **ghost_4ce** » 04 Apr 2005, 14:08

Which band sounds better is upto ones tastes and open to general discusion, unlike what elitists such as macdaddy may lead you to belive. Though I'm not a big slipknot fan myself, I know their type of music and their huge number of fans who enjoy it greatly.
I personaly prefer Metallica and Nirvana nowdays. Though bands like Staind, Nickelback and the like are pretty good too.

And how would you classify Limp Bizkit? yes they have a couple of guitars and drums, but their lyrics (mostly) are very Rap/Hip Hop.

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 04 Apr 2005, 14:30

macdaddy wrote:new age metal, nu-metal, face facts. I know that slipknot has some technical songs, but really, why do they need 10 members, while more technical bands with half or less that number manage to sound better? And try to tell a real metal fan that DJ's are metal.

They have 9 member and they use instruments on all there songs and cid only ad a little extra effects in the songs. And cid is a DJ in his Slipknot off time

macdaddy · Post by **macdaddy** » 05 Apr 2005, 07:42

thats beside the point, DJs, cannot be considered metal. If they dropped the percussionists and the DJ, they would be considered metalcore. and no metalcore isnt metal

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 05 Apr 2005, 12:23

I know that slipknot isn't metal i already told you that it is NEW AGE METAL

macdaddy · Post by **macdaddy** » 06 Apr 2005, 04:41

ok, good. Let's just drop it and say they suck. I kid, listen to whatever you want.

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 06 Apr 2005, 11:14

Ok we will drop it but they don't suck that is just a personal opinion

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