I need some opinions on this Mercedes.

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 08 Dec 2006, 17:23

Yep. I am planning into getting this car as soon as I get 18. It's a Mercedes SL65 AMG.

I want to know your opinion , tips on this car. Should I buy it? By the way I am 15 and I want to know if a car like this will be getting old by then.

Also,

color black
interior grey
engine V12 cylinders twin turbo
5980 ccm
450 kW / 612 PS
1000 Nm
top speed 250 km/h

Though the second hand price may get under 70 000$ I hope.

If not I am gonna buy a

Also,

Petrol EW7J4 EW10J4 EW12J4 ES9A
Capacity 1.8 liter 1,997 cc 2,230 cc 2.946 cc
Valves DOHC 16V DOHC 16V DOHC 16V VVT DOHC 24V VVT
Power 85 kW 100 kW @ 6000 116 kW @ 5650 155 kW @ 6000
Torque 163 Nm 190 Nm @ 4100 217 Nm @ 3900 290 Nm @ 3750
Manual 5-speed Peugeot BE4/5 Peugeot ML6C n/a
Automatic n/a Aisin AL4 ZF 4HP20 Aisin AM6 6-speed

Diesel DV6TED4 DW10BTED4
Capacity 1.6 liter 1.997 cc
Valves DOHC 16V DOHC 16V
Power 80 kW 100 kW @ 4000
Torque* 240-260 Nm 320-340 Nm @ 2000
Manual 5-speed n/a
Automatic Peugeot ML6C ZF 4HP20
*with overboost

It's price is at around 17.000 euro so I will have lots of money to spend on parts and I will not be getting a loan

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 08 Dec 2006, 17:35

Starting out with a SL65 is like being a woman. (read: Lindsay Lohan)

Crash a car because you can't drive well. Build up experience..

ahmad0410 · Post by **ahmad0410** » 08 Dec 2006, 17:51

Well Im a same age as you, 15. This 2 cars car is already QUITE old in my opinion, and about 3 years from now I guess its gonna be old for sure. Try to go for a tuner as its much cheaper and can be customized to be on par or better than the Merc.

Post by **Pabl0z** » 08 Dec 2006, 17:59

Lol? These cars are old?
My dad owns a '92 Saab 900 which is like the normal age for a car in Finland

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ahmad0410 · Post by **ahmad0410** » 08 Dec 2006, 18:07

Theres always a reason for CAPITALISING a word. =] I said QUITE. And I did say in my opinion.

steelsnake00 · Post by **steelsnake00** » 08 Dec 2006, 18:10

For $70k, there are many nicer cars than the big Mercs. Ferrari 355 F1, 911 Turbos, and American Muscle aplenty.
At 18, I seriously doubt you'll own an SL at all, let alone a 65. No-where would insure you to drive one, for instance. And big front-engined, rear drive coupÃ©s aren't the best car to learn your handling skills in.

And why a 407? Ugly ugly cars, most commonly driven by the elderly, and not exactly involving drives.

Wladylwk · Post by **Wladylwk** » 08 Dec 2006, 19:26

Damn ! From the AMG to the 407 is long way ! The AMG is WAY better !

Tunerfreak · Post by **Tunerfreak** » 08 Dec 2006, 22:29

Go GTR

I wish I had that money to blow, I wouldnt be buying expensive Mercs or Ferraris, I would be getting a tuner, at your age starting with like a front wheel drive Integra, then moving on to something like a GTR or Silvia and wasting all the rest on making it move like stink and look like glitter

PhYsIcS · Post by **PhYsIcS** » 09 Dec 2006, 00:28

Kid you're way too young to be thinking about a Mercedes. Unless you're rich then you are one lucky kid, otherwise forget it. There is simply no way you're going to be able to afford the car for one thing working minimum wage jobs, and on top of that the insurance is rediculous. Even used you're talking about a top of the line AMG model, no way in hell I could even afford that and I'm 22.

Mozer99 · Post by **Mozer99** » 09 Dec 2006, 00:48

its a cool car but there are better things for 70,000 like M3's skylines etc

Post by **TheStig** » 09 Dec 2006, 00:49

hahahaha this must be the funniest post in months here...

a SL65 AMG as starter car. That car has more torque then almost ANY car in the world and has more horsepower then most supercars.
The chance it will go under 70.000 USD in 3 years is very slim, a SL55 is in in general over 100.000 second hand. the 65 is very rare and will stay expensive for a long time. cars like the Mercedes SL are not daily drivers so they don't have alot of miles on them, wich makes them even more expensive as a second hand.

Ooh and not to forget, the roadtax and insurance will be huge! the SL65 is a heavy and big car and that combined with alot of power makes it a a extremely expensive car to own.

I really doubt you have any Idea how much 612 bhp and 1000!!!!! nm is.

And what is with the 407.
It is a car used by businessman and salespeople to cruise around europe, it is not a car you can tune, cause NO ONE has any tuning parts for it! you can put some ricer stuff on it like rims and a huge 1 size fits all spoiler and some universal interour stuff to make the car drop in value but that's about it.

ooh and you think you can get a loan for 70.000?? think again.

Rolfyboy · Post by **Rolfyboy** » 09 Dec 2006, 03:27

Dude u r a dreamer, I want to get toyota supra too. So where is it?
I am 14 and I will not get it even if I have the driving licence. LOL

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 09 Dec 2006, 03:59

@ blah , you planing on winning the lottery ? why not if you are thinking about a SL65 which is absurd ; get like a bmw or porsche if you have the budget. 18 yr. old + 612 Hp = bad and VERY high insurance rates

SomeKindOfMonster · Post by **SomeKindOfMonster** » 09 Dec 2006, 04:28

Is this another e-penis enlarging thread> Dude your 15, and your looking at an SL65 AMG? As The Stig said, these things are a weapon, plus throw in the repair costs when you break it (due to lack of experience in a high powered vehicle, plus registration, not to mention finding someone who will insure a car like that for anyone under the age of 25. Never look at something too good for your first car, because in 12 months time you will want something new anyway

ahmad0410 · Post by **ahmad0410** » 09 Dec 2006, 08:15

Yea. You dont only pay for the car, theres lots more to consider. Road tax, insurance, fines, repair, maintanence and hidden costs. Just start with something real small. Maybe start with something like VW R32, Suzuki Swift, Honda Jazz, those hatchbacks, then you can move on to sedans, and then the Merc.

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 09 Dec 2006, 10:21

Maybe you're right... Anyway I can have that car in 3 years (not a dreamer) but I guess I am going to buy the Peugeot 407 or this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/115307.htm

(it will NOT be second hand, similar)

And don't say again this is too powerful

Mozer99 · Post by **Mozer99** » 09 Dec 2006, 10:48

Yeah thats a bit more sensible but if u get 1 u got to supercharge it

PhYsIcS · Post by **PhYsIcS** » 09 Dec 2006, 20:20

A Z might be affordable by the time you can get a car, but still the insurance is going to be high as hell. So you really won't be able to afford it, and still that is too much of a car for a beginner as well. You really need to start looking at low budget cars here, something used that you can depend on to go from point A to point B. Everyone's first car is never glorious, it's just what gets you started.

ahmad0410 · Post by **ahmad0410** » 09 Dec 2006, 20:32

And I really recommend you this 2 cars, Honda Civic hatchback EG6 and Suzuki Swift. Not too powerful for a beginner and good cars to start with.

korge · Post by **korge** » 09 Dec 2006, 20:33

Stop saying he cant afford it since you dont know his income (or his parents income).

But yeah, a Z is more realistic. I know A bunch of guys my age driving H2s, RX8s and BMWs... One girl even has a porsche!!!

blah2 · Post by **blah2** » 09 Dec 2006, 20:52

My income is not very high but I can afford a new 350Z if i keep some money trough one year.

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 09 Dec 2006, 21:08

ahmad0410 wrote:Yea. You dont only pay for the car, theres lots more to consider. Road tax, insurance, fines, repair, maintanence and hidden costs.

Now stomp some common sense into your mind. Never buy a new expensive car as your first.

PhYsIcS · Post by **PhYsIcS** » 09 Dec 2006, 21:24

Stop saying he cant afford it since you dont know his income (or his parents income).

I know exactly what the income of a teenager is, and it starts at minimum wage. I was a teenager once as well you know and I've gone through all the crappy jobs too. But you are right about his parent's income, I certainly don't know that.

korge · Post by **korge** » 09 Dec 2006, 23:45

PhYsIcS wrote:
Stop saying he cant afford it since you dont know his income (or his parents income).
I know exactly what the income of a teenager is, and it starts at minimum wage. I was a teenager once as well you know and I've gone through all the crappy jobs too. But you are right about his parent's income, I certainly don't know that.

Here in atlanta, NO one makes minimum wage.... Most teens at my school make 6 bucks an hour or more (most make 7 or

so Actually, some people could afford nice cars as teens, just depends how hard they work.

SomeKindOfMonster · Post by **SomeKindOfMonster** » 10 Dec 2006, 05:59

Or how much they suck up mummy and daddy's ass? I'm a 3rd year apprentice mechanic at the moment, and currently the second highest payed apprentice in my state, and I'm on 7.50 an hour (Aus dollar, perhaps someone could convert to US to give you and idea) I've been driving a 1990 Commodore for 3 years, and i've only just racked up enough savings for a deposit on a minitruck. Doesnt matter how hard you work as a 15 year old, you can not afford a Merc or even any brand new car up front, on your own