GTO or Monaro

93360 · Post by **93360** » 28 Dec 2006, 07:27

haha thats so ugly... still a holden clone with an ugly mask on whether you like it or not =P

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 28 Dec 2006, 07:29

yea i canstill see the current gto in it but it is a start

Post by **YaelDjiel** » 28 Dec 2006, 07:37

its a brick O.o
seriously though.. far too squary.. even fuglier XD

as for the poll.. i dont really like either of them
but monaro is the original (and better engine) so... that one

Jana · Post by **Jana** » 28 Dec 2006, 09:50

darknight788 wrote:@ stig nah i dont like either car really. the gto looks too much like a steroidal cobalt or cavalier ( choose ) and all it is is a clone. has anyone seen the 2008 gto prototype ?

thats better

nice!am i the only one except darky thet thinks this is nice?o come on!

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 28 Dec 2006, 10:46

Believe me, Pontiac can't come up with shiznit now, the only thing i've seen of theres that is nice so far is the Solitsce and even thats not that great, come on Pontiac even wants to take Holden's new VE Commodore and trun it into their new Pontiac Grand Prix. I mean come on, stop taking good Aussie Cars and firetrucking them up

Post by **TheStig** » 28 Dec 2006, 14:43

What is with the american sports car builders these days?
All prototypes I see are square and look like reproduced cars from the 60's It's like they found a drawer with loads of old concepts from the 60's and 70's and thought... wow we can use that and build some new cars.

Take these 3 cars:
GTO concept
Camaro Concept
Challenger Concept.

all 3 the same Idea... old car with new styling but basicly still a huge unearodynamic brick.

I'n a way I do like the Camaro and Challenger but I do think they look to big, but then again I never seen them in real life.

Post by **GT3x24x7** » 28 Dec 2006, 15:46

In fact, even the Monaro itself is a comeback from earlier models, the last of which were produced in 1979 before the line was revived in 2001.

I owned an HJ Monaro for a time. Beast of a car.

All models: http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ca ... monaro.htm

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 28 Dec 2006, 18:17

That Monaro looks just like a 71 Monte Carlo, see the Monaro takes the look of other cars and they add stuff, thats all they do.

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 28 Dec 2006, 21:47

What the hell are you talking about. The Monaro doesn't take lines from any other car, ever. No model did, Holden built then themselves. How it looks like a Monte Carlo (As I have a perfect 70's Monte Carlo model right next to me) i don't know but whatever you see is probably a coincidence.

xinjiaspdr · Post by **xinjiaspdr** » 28 Dec 2006, 22:38

I'll agree on the monaro. It's a better car from the exterior and it handles more like a tuner than muscle.

Sil-Eighty · Post by **Sil-Eighty** » 28 Dec 2006, 23:41

GTO looks nice but the monaro is fun to drive

krazyammo · Post by **krazyammo** » 29 Dec 2006, 02:35

Jana wrote:monaro!

PhYsIcS · Post by **PhYsIcS** » 29 Dec 2006, 06:22

That Monaro looks just like a 71 Monte Carlo, see the Monaro takes the look of other cars and they add stuff, thats all they do.

While it may resemble a Monte Carlo, you gotta realize there really was no creativity in the 70's. EVERY car back in the day had that exact same generic boxy shape. Because thats exactly what they started their designs with, a box, then they added a few exterior shapes. All the cars pretty much sucked, end of story.

On another note I think that new design for the GTO looks even uglier.

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 29 Dec 2006, 08:04

Well cars back then made in America and Australia ofcourse did look like a box, but they didn't suck, look at the 69' Dodge Charger R/T & The HG Monaro, they were very good cars back then and still are today

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 29 Dec 2006, 08:06

yea back when cars where made of steel and iron

Post by **TheStig** » 29 Dec 2006, 12:19

GT3x24x7 wrote:In fact, even the Monaro itself is a comeback from earlier models, the last of which were produced in 1979 before the line was revived in 2001.

I owned an HJ Monaro for a time. Beast of a car.
All models: http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ca ... monaro.htm

I knew Holden made them before and I don't mind a good comback. but rebuilding a car in the same style as they did in the 70's sounds like lack of imagination.

Tuners Rock · Post by **Tuners Rock** » 30 Dec 2006, 20:17

No seriously looks at the Monte Carlo: http://www.valleymotorsofwinona.com/ima ... monte2.jpg

And the Monaro: http://www.holden.com.au///images/monar ... monaro.jpg

Dagon · Post by **Dagon** » 02 Jan 2007, 03:32

Different body lengths, the montecarlo has a 'tigher' rear end and a Camaro-like rear wheel swell. Montecarlo's boot section comes down more, its' lines are curvier and its' rear lights are different, it has a roof that's more fastback-ish, and overall the original Monaro has a much straighter shape on the sides and top.

Also, the Monaro (like most 70's Holdens) is smaller than most US cars of the period and built incredibly strong. Holden was (and in many was still is) a constant innovator of safety and strength technologies in cars.

That and you can mount 500+ cubic inch bigblock in a 'pony car' sized HQ without the thing's chassis twisting like a silly straw like what'll happen in a Monte Carlo.

S'like saying a Skyline looks like a Subaru STI.

amda1 · Post by **amda1** » 02 Jan 2007, 13:38

GTO, I hate the hood on the monaro

Post by **TheStig** » 02 Jan 2007, 22:26

haha, it's exactly the same hood, the hood on the Monaro is made because the Yanks wanted a more Pontiac look.... so all models got the double scoop hood.

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 04 Jan 2007, 03:14

Though again, the Monaro looks much more sleeker and sportier, the GTO is just f***ed. End of story.

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 04 Jan 2007, 06:51

you could drive both off a cliff and i wouldnt care. i just dont like them that much

Turbocharger · Post by **Turbocharger** » 04 Jan 2007, 07:30

Well thats your opinion, if you don't like either, don't post here

amda1 · Post by **amda1** » 04 Jan 2007, 10:21

TheStig wrote:haha, it's exactly the same hood, the hood on the Monaro is made because the Yanks wanted a more Pontiac look.... so all models got the double scoop hood.

GTO

Monaro

this isnt the exact same hood :/

darknight788 · Post by **darknight788** » 04 Jan 2007, 18:15

the gto in that pic looks pretty cool for a gto. sorry about my earlier post i was pissed off at something else

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