Videocards.. which to buy and whatnot.. simply videocards!

^Sparco^ · Post by **^Sparco^** » 12 Aug 2004, 22:21

in last month I told you my dad was going to buy me a PC and bla bla... finally he bought 2: one for himself and one for mine.

well, I am so angry with my father, he promised to buy me a 256mb FX5700, but instead of that he bought me a 128mb FX5200. He says both of those gfx cards are similar (but now he has installed the 256mb fx5700)

Ok, I run Underground1 and it goes well, but it is impossible to play with motion blur. I disable it and tail lights too because I dont like these options but it is still too bad.. On the other hand, my father is too happy with the framerate when plays custom XP games (card games like Spyder)

Dragon-of-Rune · Post by **Dragon-of-Rune** » 12 Aug 2004, 23:02

My new videocard isn't that great either. It has 512Mb, but one problem the older the game the less it perform's i had better graphics with my old card on games like UT diablo2 etc..

Drewb99 · Post by **Drewb99** » 13 Aug 2004, 02:43

DrewBoi wrote:i'm really having a hard time deciding on what video card to buy... from what i see at Bestbuy and Circut City... i cant choose... if u guyz could narrow it down for me here are sum things i need the card to do...

Price range $150-250
able to play Doom 3 and other old games such as NFSU and coming games....
easy to overclock

i cant really think of much else bt yea i am jealous of the card DOR... My Dad came back from Korea and he bought a new video card (dont remember what kind) but it was cheaper than here in the US for his laptop(which im using now) but it still sux...

9800 Pro

If it's for the laptop though, you probably need a new laptop.

Post by **Bojan** » 13 Aug 2004, 11:32

You could wait a month when the cheap GF6600 series comes out. It'll probably have better performances than the 9800pro at a lower price.

exonn · Post by **exonn** » 13 Aug 2004, 12:05

cheap series? how much will it cost?

remaxos · Post by **remaxos** » 18 Aug 2004, 08:27

I don't like ATI .I think that NVidia is better in the game zone .I just have on my computer a friend's FX 5950 256 ddr and the textures look awesome.I will post some pictures later =)

Sweeper · Post by **Sweeper** » 18 Aug 2004, 10:36

Drewb99 wrote:
Stereo wrote:But What do you mean "softmod"??? But I still need some answers to Nvidia
Softmodding is when you flash a card's BIOS to one of a different card, basically making it think that it's a different card. Only a few, older 9500s can actually support this.

And for your Nvidia question, the Ti4600 is only up to spec with DirectX 8 and can't support motion blur. A 5700 would be a much better buy.

Not exactly.
The 9800SE 256Bit is a such card.
I have the softmod article on my forum but it does NOT involve BIOS flashing.
So tell me if you want to see it, and I will post the link.
All you need to do is install different drivers.
And you get a 9800 Pro out of it.

When I see those 5700 shots. I got a strange feeling that my Ti 4600 has better quality, can be because mine is softmodded to Quadro 4 900 XGL.
The high end market the 9800 and the X800 are just the best, quality wise, though Nvidia may be faster, the new pipelines only offers speedboost, no quality change sadly.

I had plans to have a closer look on em but that will be later sometime in the future.

Drewb99 · Post by **Drewb99** » 18 Aug 2004, 21:04

Sweeper wrote: When I see those 5700 shots. I got a strange feeling that my Ti 4600 has better quality, can be because mine is softmodded to Quadro 4 900 XGL.
The high end market the 9800 and the X800 are just the best, quality wise, though Nvidia may be faster, the new pipelines only offers speedboost, no quality change sadly.

The 6800s support Pixel Shader 3.0, which ATI doesn't, and has better OpenGL support. If anything, the x800 is built for that featureless speedboost.

marshallpre1 · Post by **marshallpre1** » 19 Aug 2004, 19:43

i have the nvidia 5900xt oc and it runs the games fine, but sometimes, at its max performance, the game gets choppy and micro stops happen... can anyone help me with this, and what about the monitor refresh rate? does that have anything to do with anything? and are choppiness inevitable with some shooting games, like HALO? my comp specs are:
pentium 4 2.4 ghz
512 ram
win xp
nvidia 5900xt overclocked

damn i ask to many questions.. thanks

Sweeper · Post by **Sweeper** » 20 Aug 2004, 11:42

Hmmmm that depends, temparature can cause cards to slow down on its clocks and clocking it too far can make it lose performance as well.
Try taking it back a bit in clocks and see if it works, if you still have a problem, check your system temps.
I reckon your 2.4 Charlie generates around 45C and a little above.

marshallpre1 · Post by **marshallpre1** » 20 Aug 2004, 17:50

well the thing is that i bought it overclocked from nvidia... i didnt overclock it myself... so basically, it is bone stock vid card.... how else can i cool it down when it already comes with its own fan!! lol.. thanks tho... let me see what i can do...

Dragster · Post by **Dragster** » 29 Aug 2004, 23:08

ow come on... I have Radeon 9000pro, I put volcano cooler, overclocked it and I get more 3dmarks (2k3) then my friend with Radeon 9550... It's working for half years that way...

DrewBoi · Post by **DrewBoi** » 02 Sep 2004, 23:52

i was wondering if this video card is a good 1 for the price... i can by it now but i was wondering if this is a good card to get for my moen or should i get a differnent 1.. if so which ones?http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 208&depa=1

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » 03 Sep 2004, 00:10

6800!!! DEFINETLY an AWSOME choice man! choose it!

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 03 Sep 2004, 14:26

DrewBoi wrote:i was wondering if this video card is a good 1 for the price... i can by it now but i was wondering if this is a good card to get for my moen or should i get a differnent 1.. if so which ones?http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 208&depa=1

Uhm, that's one of the most powerful cards NVidia has and you ask if it's good for your money?

exonn · Post by **exonn** » 03 Sep 2004, 15:32

i wuld be wery happy to have that card. but i cant aford it

samurilos · Post by **samurilos** » 03 Sep 2004, 18:58

K everyone, i need ur advise, I currently have a geforce 4 mx440 agp card but i have hit thelimit, i can't take it anymore, i want full direct x9 compatibilty, meaning i wanna see have pixle shading and have motion blur, but I'm not rich but hey i saw a card that totally supports direct x 9 and its cheap, Not the best but its what i may be able to afford

Its a geforce fx5700 le 128 mb for 70 sumthin US dollars, free shippin too, thats around 4000 and sumthin dollars in my currency, i' have been reading it up alot, and its not the best but its ok, i'll be able to get motion blur and nice graphics like u guys, its 250 core and 400 mem, i can prolly do a driver level overclock and bring it to 270/450, its better than mx and affordable, waht i paid for my mx out here i could have used and bought that card or save on to buy sumthin better but its wat i can buy now, so whats ur opinon guys?

exonn · Post by **exonn** » 04 Sep 2004, 10:36

do it. its good enought for its price. anyway do not buy 64bit version. read all specifications and it shuld be 128bit.

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » 04 Sep 2004, 14:48

I wanna buy the 256 bit but not enough money i need 100 bux.

EDIT: I have decided to get a ATI Radeon 9800 128 MB on Feburary 6 2005. (My birthday) Right now it costs 130 dollars but i think the price is gonna go lower soon next year. I'm planning to get underground 2 on christmas or new year's... Tell me if it's a good card or not i saw screenies of the performance in underground. And it was AWSOME! So i gotta ask you... do you think the price gonna go lower? I just wanna ask.

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 11 Sep 2004, 05:42

i have a few questions, which is better, fx5700LE, or fx5700?

is there a graphics card with 512 ram?? cause i read it somewhere on these boards..

someone also said that it is better 2 have 128mb ram than 256ram on the graphic card, cause the 128 loads faster

and also, when i play NFSU sometimes it gets choppy is there anything i can do to make it run smoother?

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 11 Sep 2004, 12:08

Only can answer your NFSU question.

Close all other programs that are running at that moment. Something like Kazaa really slows down games.

Or you just upgrade your computer..

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » 11 Sep 2004, 15:37

I will need to get a new omputer...

Thats what my dad told me. Imagine an old computer ran by a new grafix card... Anyways my dad is the computer master in the house.

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 11 Sep 2004, 16:09

Buy a new motherboard, upgrade the RAM, buy a new videocard, buy larger harddisks, a new power supply unit.

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » 11 Sep 2004, 17:17

I need a new processort definetly. 800MHz too small for underground 2 IMO.

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 11 Sep 2004, 20:41

i dont hvae kazaa on my comp, the only program i ahve running is AIM and MSN messenger