need advice now

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:00

OMG!!! Wasn't your intial budget like $3000

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:01

yea but i went big... i mean if you can...why not..

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:04

Good point. My brother always told me, never to save money just for the sake of SAVING, don't horde money, just spend it..... personally I think that's some pretty good advice...

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:05

lifes too short :D

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:06

I hope you went for the black one....

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:08

yes i did, space black =) with the blue LED cooling light

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 06 Apr 2005, 00:57

What the hell.. What job do you have?D:

Too bad the processor really lacks.. It's the systems bottleneck.

ghost_4ce · Post by **ghost_4ce** » 06 Apr 2005, 01:09

OMFG Aleinware! Your a lucky guy

All I can say is: Enjoy it!

But tbh if you gave me ALL the money in the world I would still build my own PC just to have the pleasure of having each and every component the way I want them to be.

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 01:15

that's exactly how I feel. I would never buy a pre built PC. I just enjoy building my own system, to my own taste, with the added fustration of forcing in the RAM, trying to keep the wires in order, knowing full well that they're all gonna get messy anyway... aah the joys of building your own....

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 01:43

the computer i have now is a custom piece of shiznit tower box, i had a crappy motherboard running a amd athlon 1.2, then i bought a new motherboard and got a amd sepron 2.8, which is not even being used because i bought the wrong motherboard and its not compatible rofl, learned my lesson there btw. then i bought a new sound card, and speakers, then monitor, then video card, then a stronger power supply, then other stuff like keyboard mouse. i would try and run nfu2 in max setting except anti lising, and the agme will go very slow......i ran the fraps program and the yellow thing on the top left it says like 16-17 frames per second....that sucks really bad.

but im pretty sure that im gunna be able to run any high top end program on my pc when i get it. i can't wait to play doom 3 on max settings...close the door to my room, turn lights off...and put my headphones on....and play in my 30 inch flat lcd monitor lol! it's gunna be scawwy!

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 01:47

[quote="PSZeTa"]What the hell.. What job do you have?D:

Too bad the processor really lacks.. It's the systems bottleneck.[/quote]

why does it lack? don't tell me that man!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's a bad ass cpu m'kay!

what cpu is better? lol

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 06 Apr 2005, 01:52

11gs. id rather buy a CAR than a pc for that much.... not only that for 11gs you can buy a pc with 4gb ram best processor best graphic cards. best case, best PSU, best speaker, have it delievered to you by a frickin helicopter. and hav your hand shaken by the president. and have sex with a porno star. thats what you can get for 11gs

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 02:26

and have enough change left over for the weekly shopping.... which you can get your butler to do...

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 02:44

you guys are exagarating however you spell it. it's expensive but it's not just a regular pc, it has a 3 year warranty....and what else doesn't it have?...im happy for it...i know i can pay it so what gives....and im also getting a car...so theres no problem. im single, no kids, just got a gf....im gunna have my own seperate apartment apart from the house...im gunna help with rent...so what's the problem...if i can have it..why not =)

plus that alienware is a beast....i could have done the long way and the hard way...and buy everything seperately...with or even without warranty...buit it my self..who knows with what problems......plus..i suffered with this pc for a long time...i deserve to have a alienware configured to the max 8)

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 06 Apr 2005, 03:43

wth would you need a damn warranty for it?? if anythign happened to it, you could just buy a a duplicate of that pc. or better!!

Sir Ibi · Post by **Sir Ibi** » 06 Apr 2005, 03:50

Ye, but if you got the money than why not.... why do people buy expenisve cars, when an oridnary car at a fraction of the price can get you to A to B just as effectivly..... so he wants to spend 11 grand on a PC, good for him I say.... and keep spending more money....

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 04:03

thanks ^^^ 8)

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 06 Apr 2005, 04:11

yeah. sure. but im not saying its a computer thats worse. im saying that its a computer for a fraction of the price and better. so would you buy a car thats more expensive and 0-60 time of 12 hours. or a car with 0-60 in 3 seconds that costs half of the other one??

ghost_4ce · Post by **ghost_4ce** » 06 Apr 2005, 11:38

Fraction of the price and better? Well, it wont be better by all that much as the alienware is obviously quite a beast in intself. As PSZeta pointed out, the lack of a 64-bit could be a bottleneck but you have to admit it will have at the lead in pure clock cycles in current environments. And if he's just gamer it wont matter all that much anyways, as games dont utilize the full CPU power all the time. All other components look pretty much "at-the-edge". Though you can never have enough RAM, I cant imagine a software not being able to reach its full potential with 2GB of ram. And then you have all the Alienware-exclusive cooling stuff.
And you also have to remember the top quality after sales service you get from such companies.

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 17:39

i cancelled my order....due to they made a error and my moms credit is not enough. so it looks like im going to have to build my own computer...i wanted the alienware...they said we can work sumtin out and buy a cheaper system..but i want the best....so i guess im going to have to build my own........can you guys help me out too build a somewhat close to the alienware pc?

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 18:08

god theres too many parts.......i don't even though if the things im looking at are even going to be compatible with everything.....plz help me out guys...let it be with the stuff from tigerdirect

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 06 Apr 2005, 19:40

i dunno my advice is. dont spend that much on something that you obviously dont know that much about. xeon is a server proc. amd is a gaming. so get a gaming one if you want to play games not the other one

PSZeTa · Post by **PSZeTa** » 06 Apr 2005, 20:07

El1jonMC305 wrote:i cancelled my order....due to they made a error and my moms credit is not enough. so it looks like im going to have to build my own computer...i wanted the alienware...they said we can work sumtin out and buy a cheaper system..but i want the best....so i guess im going to have to build my own........can you guys help me out too build a somewhat close to the alienware pc?

Dude.

El1jonMC305 · Post by **El1jonMC305** » 06 Apr 2005, 22:05

just forget it guys, i'll go to tiger direct my self and let them know what i want. and see what happens. plus i can;t wait another month for an alien ware anyways, i'm too hard headed and i want things done quickly.

okay just tell me what i can do to upgrade my computer what should i do?

i have:

Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP1

AMD Athlon 1.2GHz

512MB RAM

Radeon 9600 XT AGP 128 MB

SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio

logitech wireless keyboard, logitech wireless optical mouse

sony 15 inch lcd

creative 7.1 speakers

80 GB Hard Drive

in my opinion i just need the best cpu,motherboard,tower,video card,and a bigger monitor, new power supply. because the keyboard i have now and mouse is tiight. the speakers are great also with the fact that one of them isn't working because i need to buy a new wire for it. the sound card is good i think. so having that in mind all i really need is:

cpu
memory
motherboard
video card
case
power supply
monitor
hard drive
and i want new cd roms, one that plays dvd,burns dvds,burns music,
and another cd rom to just read cd's were i would put my gaming software.

what do you guys think?

EmptyWords · Post by **EmptyWords** » 06 Apr 2005, 22:45

cpu - AMD FX-55
memory - like 1gb minimum of low cas latency ram (unbuffered) maybe crosair or kingston are good
motherboard - if you got the cash which you do. spend like 250 on a good one. usually ASUS make nice ones. get one with SLI. is good for pc3200 ram. socket 939.
video card- dual 6800 GT or ultra. (i think for ultra you need dual powersupplies)
case - lian li all aluminum server sized case
power supply like a 600 w PSU should fit the job

monitor - 19" samsung flat screen. what ever one you want
hard drive - those 10.000 rpm. get like 140 gb worth of them.

this is what i would get though for my budget. once i decide to fully get one. this would run me under 1300.

cpu- athlon64 3500+
memory - 1 gb of pc3200
motherboard - any with AGP (preferably ASUS)
video card - ATI X800XT AIW
case - all aluminum server sized case
power supply- about 450-500w
monitor - none
hard drive-80 of 7200rpm

i think this one would suit me more than enough.

try http://www.newegg.com theyll supply you with everythign you need. they also sell pcs.